but it doesn't do well with the internet. or soon to be Java and if a
program doesn't work that well, you are screwed up. you have to wait for
someone to guess what you want. I have a demo of it on my sys and it
slows my system down. of course I unload JFW first.. I wouldn't use
WindowEyes if my life depended on it.
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:50:50 EST "Charles Lott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>AMEN, and AMEN again...If they color you stupid, they'll have to color
>
>me flat-out arrogant, and I'm sure some do! I have been testing both
>JFW and GW Micro's Window-Eyes; and frankly, thus far I find that
>Window-Eyes has it all over JAWS. For starters, Window-Eyes does not
>cause crashes, lock-ups and those disgusting illegal operation
>messages
>Windows seems to like to spray all over everywhere, especially when
>JFW
>is running. Secondly, Window-Eyes doesn't require a complex scripting
>
>language; and, though it doesn't interface well with every program on
>the map, you can often make it do quite well with many applications if
>
>you're willing to take the time to create pronouncing and graphics
>dictionaries, along with some set files, which are made simply by
>saving
>them. So you decide which is better.
>Oh, by the way, Window-Eyes trusts its users enough to not mess you up
>
>with authorization keys which can easily be lost through crashes,
>power
>interruptions and, of course, floppy disk failures.
>
>Charlie
>
>
>>From: ab7hw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: jfw & windows98
>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:24:41 -0700
>>
>>Sorry I can�t resist this one. Why do we have so much trouble
>getting
>a
>>computer to work with JFW, not the fault of the computer re-seller!
>Why do we
>>blame the dealer selling us the computer, is it the fault of the
>re-seller? Do
>>you think the re-seller likes to have us come in and say it is their
>>responsibility to make our computer work with JFW? What is the
>computer dealer
>>to think when his computer works with everything else on the market,
>but our
>>computer?
>>
>>Color me stupid, but I think the world does not need to make their
>computer with
>>us, but instead Henter-Joyce needs to make their software work with
>the
>rest of
>>the world, like I said Color me stupid and niece.
>>Dick Chrisman and Scotty the Wonder Guide Dog.
>>
>>PS. Things will just get worse.
>>
>>
>>Sweetman Systems wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you should expect the dealer to give you a new video card that
>
>works
>>> with the assistive technology you are using. Unless, of course,
>the
>person
>>> bought the computer some time ago, maybe it was used by family
>members, and
>>> then just recently they decided to use it with speech. The ideal
>solution
>>> is to buy the computer and JFW at the same time from the same
>person.
>But
>>> in any case, if you bought it from a computer store and not Wal
>Mart,
>it is
>>> no big deal for then to pop another video card in. They're pretty
>cheap,
>>> you can buy one yourself and do it if the vendor won't. You can
>see
>a list
>>> of video cards that have been tested by HJ on their web site. We
>have had
>>> good luck with the S3 Virge, which is not one of the cards that
>they
>have
>>> tested, though.
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread. Have you checked the obvious
>
>video
>>> settings, like setting colors to 256 and resolution to 400 x 680?
>600 x
>>> 800 usually works, also, but not anything higher. Hardware
>acceleration
>>> should also be set to full.
>>>
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> At 07:10 AM 3/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>> >At 01:32 AM 3/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >>First, uninstall jaws. You can do this by going to uninstall jaws
>
>from
>>> >>the jfw folder on the start menu. Have a sighted person use the
>>> >>computer for a while to make sure the problem is gone. Then run
>the
>>> >>maintainance tools. Do a thorough scan disc, disc cleanup,
>>> >>defragmentor, registry checker etc. Now, reinstall jaws. If the
>video
>>> >>card is the problem, Dr. Jaws should tell you that. You may never
>
>find
>>> >>out what the problem is, but reinstalling might solve it.
>>> >
>>> >I am the sighted person teaching a blind person how to use her new
>
>computer
>>> >located at her home.
>>> >Next time I go there I will follow your suggestions. I know how
>to
>do a
>>> >scandisk and defrag. But how do I do a disk cleanup and registry
>
>check?
>>> >
>>> >However before I spend the time doing a complete scandisk perhaps
>I
>should
>>> >just reinstall jfw and see what doctor jaws has to say. Note
>that
>her
>>> >computer works OK if I don't start jfw. I am sure it would also
>
>run fine
>>> >if I uninstall jfw. The problems occur only while jfw is
>running.
>And
>>> >and also while trying to shut down, even if we turn off jfw
>first.
>>> >
>>> >If it turns out that the video card is incompatible with jfw what
>can we do
>>> >about it? Can we expect the dealer to give us a new video card
>that
>will
>>> >be compatible? How would he know?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>> >>>I installed jfw on a new IBM Aptiva with Windows 98 and have
>been
>>> >>getting
>>> >>>frequent "illegal operation" messages, crashes, and cannot shut
>it
>>> >>off in
>>> >>>the usual manner. I have to turn off the switch manually.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I made all the Windows 98 settings recommended by HJ and by
>people
>on
>>> >>the
>>> >>>forum: -- unchecked "view as web page", "animate windows... "
>and
>>> >>changed
>>> >>>the radio button to "classic", etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>When I tried to change the recommended JAWS settings, I opened
>the
>>> >>Config
>>> >>>Mgr with Insert-6 and tried to select "Graphics and "Symbols" I
>got
>>> >>an
>>> >>>"illegal operation" message and the computer froze.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>If I start up the computer and don't start jfw, everything
>works
>>> >>fine.
>>> >>>Once I go into jfw there are problems. Even if I exit jfw
>before
>>> >>shutting
>>> >>>down, I get the "illegal operation" message and have to throw
>the
>>> >>switch to
>>> >>>shut down.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>What's wrong?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Lenny
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>DEED ABOVE CREED
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
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>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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