Hey Karin:
I'm still working on some of the problems...However, for me they are
mountainous, since all my Visual Studio applications give me the
described error and illegal messages. Not, however, under "the other
screen reader!
>From: "Karim Lakhani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: jfw & windows98
>Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:26:47 -0700
>
>Charlie these are only your thoughts I hope? I use JFW and don't
experience
>any of the problems that you profess the program to have.
>Fear mongering is not a good thing to pass on to people!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Lott
>Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 10:51 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: jfw & windows98
>
>
>AMEN, and AMEN again...If they color you stupid, they'll have to color
>me flat-out arrogant, and I'm sure some do! I have been testing both
>JFW and GW Micro's Window-Eyes; and frankly, thus far I find that
>Window-Eyes has it all over JAWS. For starters, Window-Eyes does not
>cause crashes, lock-ups and those disgusting illegal operation messages
>Windows seems to like to spray all over everywhere, especially when JFW
>is running. Secondly, Window-Eyes doesn't require a complex scripting
>language; and, though it doesn't interface well with every program on
>the map, you can often make it do quite well with many applications if
>you're willing to take the time to create pronouncing and graphics
>dictionaries, along with some set files, which are made simply by
saving
>them. So you decide which is better.
>Oh, by the way, Window-Eyes trusts its users enough to not mess you up
>with authorization keys which can easily be lost through crashes, power
>interruptions and, of course, floppy disk failures.
>
>Charlie
>
>
>>From: ab7hw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: jfw & windows98
>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:24:41 -0700
>>
>>Sorry I can�t resist this one. Why do we have so much trouble getting
>a
>>computer to work with JFW, not the fault of the computer re-seller!
>Why do we
>>blame the dealer selling us the computer, is it the fault of the
>re-seller? Do
>>you think the re-seller likes to have us come in and say it is their
>>responsibility to make our computer work with JFW? What is the
>computer dealer
>>to think when his computer works with everything else on the market,
>but our
>>computer?
>>
>>Color me stupid, but I think the world does not need to make their
>computer with
>>us, but instead Henter-Joyce needs to make their software work with
the
>rest of
>>the world, like I said Color me stupid and niece.
>>Dick Chrisman and Scotty the Wonder Guide Dog.
>>
>>PS. Things will just get worse.
>>
>>
>>Sweetman Systems wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you should expect the dealer to give you a new video card that
>works
>>> with the assistive technology you are using. Unless, of course, the
>person
>>> bought the computer some time ago, maybe it was used by family
>members, and
>>> then just recently they decided to use it with speech. The ideal
>solution
>>> is to buy the computer and JFW at the same time from the same
person.
>But
>>> in any case, if you bought it from a computer store and not Wal
Mart,
>it is
>>> no big deal for then to pop another video card in. They're pretty
>cheap,
>>> you can buy one yourself and do it if the vendor won't. You can see
>a list
>>> of video cards that have been tested by HJ on their web site. We
>have had
>>> good luck with the S3 Virge, which is not one of the cards that they
>have
>>> tested, though.
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread. Have you checked the obvious
>video
>>> settings, like setting colors to 256 and resolution to 400 x 680?
>600 x
>>> 800 usually works, also, but not anything higher. Hardware
>acceleration
>>> should also be set to full.
>>>
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> At 07:10 AM 3/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>> >At 01:32 AM 3/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >>First, uninstall jaws. You can do this by going to uninstall jaws
>from
>>> >>the jfw folder on the start menu. Have a sighted person use the
>>> >>computer for a while to make sure the problem is gone. Then run
the
>>> >>maintainance tools. Do a thorough scan disc, disc cleanup,
>>> >>defragmentor, registry checker etc. Now, reinstall jaws. If the
>video
>>> >>card is the problem, Dr. Jaws should tell you that. You may never
>find
>>> >>out what the problem is, but reinstalling might solve it.
>>> >
>>> >I am the sighted person teaching a blind person how to use her new
>computer
>>> >located at her home.
>>> >Next time I go there I will follow your suggestions. I know how
to
>do a
>>> >scandisk and defrag. But how do I do a disk cleanup and registry
>check?
>>> >
>>> >However before I spend the time doing a complete scandisk perhaps I
>should
>>> >just reinstall jfw and see what doctor jaws has to say. Note
that
>her
>>> >computer works OK if I don't start jfw. I am sure it would also
>run fine
>>> >if I uninstall jfw. The problems occur only while jfw is
running.
>And
>>> >and also while trying to shut down, even if we turn off jfw first.
>>> >
>>> >If it turns out that the video card is incompatible with jfw what
>can we do
>>> >about it? Can we expect the dealer to give us a new video card
that
>will
>>> >be compatible? How would he know?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>> >>>I installed jfw on a new IBM Aptiva with Windows 98 and have been
>>> >>getting
>>> >>>frequent "illegal operation" messages, crashes, and cannot shut
it
>>> >>off in
>>> >>>the usual manner. I have to turn off the switch manually.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I made all the Windows 98 settings recommended by HJ and by
people
>on
>>> >>the
>>> >>>forum: -- unchecked "view as web page", "animate windows... "
and
>>> >>changed
>>> >>>the radio button to "classic", etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>When I tried to change the recommended JAWS settings, I opened
the
>>> >>Config
>>> >>>Mgr with Insert-6 and tried to select "Graphics and "Symbols" I
>got
>>> >>an
>>> >>>"illegal operation" message and the computer froze.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>If I start up the computer and don't start jfw, everything works
>>> >>fine.
>>> >>>Once I go into jfw there are problems. Even if I exit jfw
before
>>> >>shutting
>>> >>>down, I get the "illegal operation" message and have to throw the
>>> >>switch to
>>> >>>shut down.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>What's wrong?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Lenny
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>DEED ABOVE CREED
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
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