True, with a cd burner you can copy a cd as many times as you wish; but 
it still cannot be installed by anyone who doesn't have the cd key (if 
it's a Microsoft product, that is).  Let's get real...If one wants to do 
it badly enough, I think it might be possible to get around the 
protection system and copy an authorization diskette...though I admit 
I'm not totally sure of that.


>From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: jfw authrisation disk
>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:06:53 -0800
>
>With a lot of new systems coming standard with cd burners, that isn't a
>secure a copy protection method as it use to be.  You can copy a cd 
easier
>than you could a protected diskette, such as the one HJ is currently 
using.
>My personal preference, (which doesn't mean a hill of beans to anyone), 
is
>the dreaded Dongle method; you don't have a limited number of installs 
with
>a dongle, and since all systems come with a printer port, I could use 
it on
>any system I desire to, but only 1 system at a time, which would 
satisfy HJ.
>It is a lot harder to duplicate a dongle than it is a cd.
>Murphy's law dictates that if you have only a set number of possible
>registration keys, then things will happen that cause you to go through 
that
>allotment faster than expected!
>I don't like the current key method, but since I knew of it before
>purchasing JFW, then I can't bitch too much...after all, if we don't 
like a
>vender's methods of protecting their product, then we don't have to 
purchase
>their product.  If enough people did this, then that vender would 
change
>that particular method...evidently, that hasn't been the case.
>I don't like the key method, but as long as the vender realizes that
>mistakes will be made that will necessitate the user getting another 
key or
>two, then all it becomes is a minor inconvenience whenever I want to 
switch,
>or repartition,  hard drives. and have a brain cramp and forget to 
uninstall
>the key file.
>If I didn't mind the slow loading of JFW when it has to search for an
>authorization diskette, I'd stick in an extra 3.5 drive I've got here 
and
>just leave that diskette in drive B:, and reformat my hard drives to my
>little heart's content!  I tried that with drive A: and got driven nuts 
when
>I'd forget to pop it out before booting and would sit and wonder why 
the
>sorry machine wasn't booting up!  I could set the boot sequence to C 
and A,
>but Murphy steps in again here--as soon as I did that, something would 
keep
>it from booting to the hard drive while I'm home alone!
>
>Thanks,
>Dennis Brown
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Blind Programming Site at
>http://brown99.home.mindspring.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 12:50 PM
>Subject: Re: jfw authrisation disk
>
>
>>Regrettably, I have to say that HJ makes it very clear that the
>>authorization floppy cannot be copied even for archiving, since the 
copy
>>won't work.  I have told HJ personally that I consider this an
>>unreasonable hardship on the legitimate paid-up user, since floppies
>>obviously can go bad at the drop of a hat, so to speak.  I have seen 
bad
>>sectors come out of the woodwork on relatively new floppies.  I do 
have
>>an idea, but I'll not mention it here because I've not had a chance to
>>check it out...Seriously, I doubt it will work anyway, since
>>copy-protected floppies such as your authorization disk often have
>>intentional bad sectors to keep copying utilities from doing their 
job.
>>Ultimately, I wish HJ would drop this arcane method of self-protection
>>in favor of the Microsoft method, in which you get a unique CD key 
with
>>your purchase, and you must enter it every time you install from the 
CD.
>>
>>
>>>From: Simon F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: jfw authrisation disk
>>>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:31:15 +1300
>>>
>>>        greetings listers
>>>
>>>is it possible to copy an authorisation key to another floppy.
>>>I wish to do this so I can have a back up as well as one in another
>>office.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>simon.
>>>Simon Fogarty
>>>Dunedin, NZ
>>>
>>>Hm ph: ++64-03-4771633
>>>WK ph: ++64-025-2230355
>>>
>>>Email:
>>>hm : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>sch: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>bus: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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