I guess I don't uhnderstand.  People complained when there wasn't a public
beta and they complain when there is.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Antonio Tenuta
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Release Candidate 2 is now posted on the hj web page


Hi, Ron

I for one would like to respectfully disagree.  There is no reason to think
that HJ no longer has paid Beta tester.  As an end user I appreciate the
opportunity to have some input in what we, the end users like or don't like
about the product before it is released.

Further, it is clearly a Beta version and no one is compelled to participate
in the testing of it.

Have a Good Weekend
Tony
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Milliman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Release Candidate 2 is now posted on the hj web page


> JFW listers,  please excuse my ignorance, but I am a bit confused!  Yes,
> even more than usual!  Is the a JFW version 3.3, a version 3.31, a version
> 3.31.31 and now, a version 3.31.35 Release Candidate 2???
>
> What in the hell is going on?  Why is HJ putting up program versions full
> of problems and bugs for us to find for them.  Doesn't HJ have competent
> enough people to find their programming problems an bugs?  If we are going
> to do their work for them, then, it seems as if some of us should be hired
> as paid beta testers.
>
> Do not misunderstand.  I am very reluctant to criticize HJ because I am
> deeply appreciative of their work and am a genuine admirer of Ted Henter
> and what he has accomplished.  However, releasing a program, even as a
> "release candidate" prematurely, with the objective of letting us find the
> problems and bugs, is a highly questionable practice.  I suggest that they
> establish a "representative" group of typical users as paid beta testers,
> send them the release candidates, and then, after the problems and bugs
are
> worked out, HJ can put it up for the rest of us to download and/or they
can
> ship them out to us as officially released upgrades or new versions.  I
> realize that even then we will probably find a few small problems, but the
> current approach is only creating chaos, giving them a poor reputation,
and
> confusing many users.
>
> Ron Milliman
>
>
>
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