Well, ya know, some people will complain about just about anything.  I bet
you could even find somebody who would complain it they won a million
dollars because they were not pleased that it wasn't 10 million.  HJ tries
to please their users, but there just isn't a chance of pleaseing some
people no matter what you do.

Let's just hope the unhappy soul doesn't start complaining about all the
problems he wants fixed when the next release does come out since he had his
chance to have some input and didn't take the opportunity to have that
input.




----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: Release Candidate 2 is now posted on the hj web page


> I guess I don't uhnderstand.  People complained when there wasn't a public
> beta and they complain when there is.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Antonio Tenuta
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 1:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Release Candidate 2 is now posted on the hj web page
>
>
> Hi, Ron
>
> I for one would like to respectfully disagree.  There is no reason to
think
> that HJ no longer has paid Beta tester.  As an end user I appreciate the
> opportunity to have some input in what we, the end users like or don't
like
> about the product before it is released.
>
> Further, it is clearly a Beta version and no one is compelled to
participate
> in the testing of it.
>
> Have a Good Weekend
> Tony
> _____________________________
> |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |  Tony The Blacksheep
> ||___________________________  _
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Milliman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Release Candidate 2 is now posted on the hj web page
>
>
> > JFW listers,  please excuse my ignorance, but I am a bit confused!  Yes,
> > even more than usual!  Is the a JFW version 3.3, a version 3.31, a
version
> > 3.31.31 and now, a version 3.31.35 Release Candidate 2???
> >
> > What in the hell is going on?  Why is HJ putting up program versions
full
> > of problems and bugs for us to find for them.  Doesn't HJ have competent
> > enough people to find their programming problems an bugs?  If we are
going
> > to do their work for them, then, it seems as if some of us should be
hired
> > as paid beta testers.
> >
> > Do not misunderstand.  I am very reluctant to criticize HJ because I am
> > deeply appreciative of their work and am a genuine admirer of Ted Henter
> > and what he has accomplished.  However, releasing a program, even as a
> > "release candidate" prematurely, with the objective of letting us find
the
> > problems and bugs, is a highly questionable practice.  I suggest that
they
> > establish a "representative" group of typical users as paid beta
testers,
> > send them the release candidates, and then, after the problems and bugs
> are
> > worked out, HJ can put it up for the rest of us to download and/or they
> can
> > ship them out to us as officially released upgrades or new versions.  I
> > realize that even then we will probably find a few small problems, but
the
> > current approach is only creating chaos, giving them a poor reputation,
> and
> > confusing many users.
> >
> > Ron Milliman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
>
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