Friends, Can we try and improve the quality of interactions on this forum? It is quiet interesting to note the various perspectives that emerge in the process of discussions and sharings. But I feel we could make it a bit more objective and academic and, a little more friendlier for each one as fellow communicators also.
On 7/16/08, S kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr.Chaudhury, > > 1. You are not aware of the fact that the Govt. controlled Hindu Religious > Boards appropriate all the income of the temples received by way of > donations, through Hundi-s and so on. And this money too is used by the > various State Govts. including Kashmir (Vaishnodevi and Amarnath), for > building of mosques and Churches, for Haj travels of Muslims and a small > fraction isughed back insufficient even for running of the temples. This > includes the CPM Govt. of Kerala and Christian CM controlled Andhra who sold > off much of the land owned by the Balaji temple in Hyderabad. > > 2. If you want to know of the consequences of conversion, read the reports > from North East, where Christian converts barge into Hindu houses, smash the > temples and do not athe Hindu-s celebrate the festivals. Jharkand also would > turn to a burning State once the Christians exceed 25% of the population. > Haven't you heard of inquisitions? > > 3. Hinduism is not a converting religion. And if there are protests against > conversions by any Hindu groups, the Christian controlled media shout from > housetops- Hindu terrorists attack Churches!! > Have you read the report about murder of Staines how the media as well as > pastors totally distorted the event to implicate Hindu groups? > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/15/08, pranab kumar chaudhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: pranab kumar chaudhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in > the group?: > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > I dont see that conversion is a big issue to the common masses. Besides, who > is preventing you to reconvert these people ? Let us ask questions why these > people are giving consent to conversion ? Is conversion is illegal ? Our > temples are also is having lot of money. It is more than 336 million. Why > not they are converting christian/muslims to Hinduism ? Let religious > people deal the subject of conversion. Corruption starts with buying votes > through different means. What we are doing when our MPs are selling > themselves for votes ? A daily labour is selling his/her vote in 25/- and > MPs are selling their votes in 25 crore. It is our attitudes and values that > we are to blame for. Let us do something to change this. > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 S kumar wrote : >> >> >>And all of us know that many enquiry commissions have indicted seniors for >> corruption. Corruption by high and mighty is faced by common mass day in >> and day out. >> >>THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION IN THE COUNTRY IS THE ANNUAL RECEIPT OF US$ 336 >> MILLION FROM EVANGELICAL GROUPS TO INDIAN EVANGELISTS AND UTILISING THESE >> FUNDS WITHOUT AUDIT OR ACCOUNT, TO ENTICE TRIBALS TO CONVERT TO >> CHRISTIANITY BY ALL POSSIBLE MEANS- MONETARY INDUCEMENTS, PRESENTS AND >> PROMISES. HAVE ANY OF THESE SO CALLED NGO-S ENGAGED IN CONVERSIONS >> PUBLISHED THEIR ACCOUNTS AND ACCOUNTED FOR THE 336 MILLION US$ RECEIVED IN >> 2006-7? EVEN LALLU YADAV'S CATTLEFEED OR B'S KICKBACKS WOULD BE PIGMIED >> COMPARED TO THE EVANGELICAL FUNDS PUMPED INTO INDIA, AND SEVERAL JOBLESS >> KERALA CHRISTIANS ENGAGED IN DAILY VISITS TO CONVERT THE TRIBALS. >>AND STILL THESE EVANGELISTS PUBLISH PICTURES OF EMACIATED ILL FED INFANTS >> IN TRIBAL AREAS, INSTEAD OF FEEDING THEM USING A MINISCULE OF THESE FUNDS. >> WHAT WAS STAINES DOING IN THE ORISSA JUNGLES? YOU WANT DETAILS? >> >>Innumerable example of intimidation by mightier cousin of human is evident >> in all dailies and news channels. >>I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN DETAILS OF WHO OWNS THE NEWSCHANNELS AND MEDIA. IT IS >> MOSTLY OWNED BY CHRISTIAN GROUPS ABROAD AND WOULD NOT REVEAL ANYTHING THAT >> INDICTS EVANGELICAL ACTIVITIES >> >>--- On Tue, 7/15/08, anindita dey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> wrote: >> >> From: anindita dey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> >>Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the >> group?: >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in >>Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:30 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Dear Group, >>Sarcasm is an accepted form of expression which I also employed in the said >> comment. However, I wonder how someone could ever discover threat >> perception from my comments. Well, I do believe that someone has the >> freedom to read as per ones will. But at the same time I surely do not >> believe that the person concern who prefer selective filtration while >> reading has freedom to comment without taking full perspective. If someone >> feels an intense urge to comment, the person concern should also take into >> account my starting sentence- ‘We have seen it here in Jharkhand Group >> also- seniors spewing unnecessary venom towards others, other faiths and >> other customs’. The inner tale of my comment is, therefore, to indicate >> something else. Have you ever noticed some of the seniors spewing >> unnecessary venom against others without any provocation in Jharkhand >> Group--some of them see evangelical hand in every curse of society, some >> want to highjack the >> group and dedicate it for a particular section, etc. etc.? I am sure you >> have--if not, I wonder if you have ignored these deliberately. I refrain >> from naming because that will cast a shade of bad behaviour on myself--at >> least I believe so. Senior again doesn’t mean older exclusively- -it may >> denote higher position in organisation, better established figures in >> society, belonging to so called higher strata in caste system, so on and >> so forth. And all of us know that many enquiry commissions have indicted >> seniors for corruption. Corruption by high and mighty is faced by common >> mass day in and day out. Innumerable example of intimidation by mightier >> cousin of human is evident in all dailies and news channels. >> Psychologically, behaviour is also reflected in lifestyle. Examples of >> good behaviour and lifestyle are also set by the seniors-- as the case of >> our previous President Honourable APJ Abdul Kalam and Infy mentor Mr. >> Narayanamurthy for the >> corporate world. Behaviour of juniors, although important, is generally >> not imitated by general mass. So, behaviour of seniors set the example. It >> is because they have the capability to control people and their situation. >> Thus I used ‘seniors’ in a broader sense and just used the >> contemporary finding to corroborate my contention. Just forget ‘our’ >> (Indian) and ‘their’ (foreigner) business and read my comments in the >> light of above facts. >> >> >>--- On Mon, 14/7/08, Dr.V.N. Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: >> >> From: Dr.V.N. Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >>Subject: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the >> group?: >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in >>Date: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 5:27 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum >> >> >> >> >>Dear Anandita, >> >>I think your reference to the European and Foregners' findings based on >> their cultural perception does not apply to our conditions and social, >> cultural backgrounds. Hence such messages with kind of warnings like 'So >> beware seniors, behave yourselves! Read on.......... ......... ..' are >> unwarranted. I request you to please explain your case if you have some >> formal or informal observation on this issue and where were the seniors >> wrong. I think that will benefit us more than giving warnings in e-mails >> like this. >> >> >> >> >>I saw your reply in which you mentioned that 'We have seen it here in >> Jharkhand Group also- seniors spewing unnecessary venom towards others, >> other faiths and other customs.' This is not a convincing reply. I expect >> you to tell the group by quoting each of the msg with emphasis where >> Seniors were spewing unnecessary venoms ......just because of seniority of >> age and not for a good reason or logic. >> >>I, for one, do not know the age of the group members and in my view no >> body, not many of us worry about that. You have quoted a study report of a >> foreigner for his own country or his Environment. I do not agree on this. >> In case you are serious about it please cite the cases as requested above. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Dr.V.N.Sharma >> >> ------------------------------------ Replying to this email will send an e-mail to 3500+ members of Jharkhand Forum. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Jharkhand Forum is an easiest accessible public forum, where everyone’s voices / thoughts / ideas / opinions / experiences / suggestions are heard without any intermediate moderation. Jharkhand Forum is specially focused to Development Issues of Jharkhand Region / East India. It invites you to share anything on developments issues and welcome your active participation in discussions. Read more about it @ http://www.jharkhand.org.in/about-jharkhand-forum +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ D I D Y O U K N O W ? 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