Do we have a good thing going now? For the current established user base, we
are great, we rock. For new comers? well we are somewhat good, we could do
better, but they are not participating in return so the fault is 50-50. For
people who didn't even hear of linux or just starting out? we are a complete
train wreck!!

I understand what halasa wrote, when you have more than 80 people, it's
really difficult to do something that would interest them all, not to
mention the huge logistical problem of coordinating such an event. Different
people have different approaches. But the thing is, the current subscribers
are not participating in ANY activity we do. Zaid Amireh said he is happy
with the mailing list, good for him. Whenever there is a thread that he can
participates in he does, that's his style. Whenever we have a public event
you see Ammar Ibrahim volunteering. Whenever there are pretty advanced
questions you'll see Yaman and Khamis coming to the rescue. But the thing
is, beyond the usual 20, we have ZERO activity. They are, in fact, zombie
processes.

What Ayed said is also true, if you read our threads you won't find any "how
do i find a file by its name" questions, or what media player plays wma
files. It's all somewhat advanced, and development centric. Of course we
can't ask people to dumb down their question (and thank god for having such
a qualified user base in the first place), but some new comers might shy
away from us because of us unconsciously setting the bar a bit high. Of
course, for this there is no solution, we can't simply start asking novice
questions, but we simply try to convey an atmosphere of tolerance of what
some might deem as "lesser" questions. Some might argue that's their
problem, well... let's be the grown ups here.

Anyway, the original motive for this thread was not how our lug is
interacting with the community. It was about the effort being extended every
two weeks by mousa nassar, and being ignored time and time again. It's about
having a fully equipped lab and not utilizing it. I understand that we can't
have everybody show up for every lecture (and they shouldn't), but the
general mood towards those lectures is passive and non-caring. Either use
the lab, or just set the guy free to enjoy his weekend. Going to work on a
friday from 5-9 isn't exactly a thrill ride. If anybody requests any future
lectures, we could arrange them on a case by case basis with him, if the
labs are still free for our usage. This permanent schedule thing isn't
working for us.

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Al-Faisal El-Dajani
Phone: +962-7-77 799 781
P.O Box: 140056
11814 Amman, Jordan

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