> Perhaps I am not explaining myself very well, but I am trying to say there
is a
> very real connection between what we believe and what happens. So that
even if i
> do not pull the trigger, I am still accountable if I support pulling the
rigger.

I understand that from a standpoint of conscience.  That's why this
situation is such a dilemma.  The Taliban were given a month to turn over
Bin Laden peacefully.  I do believe there is an abundance of proof that has
been documented over the past decade that he is responsible and I wouldn't
assume that we hadn't turned over proof to then just because they said so. I
don't understand why some people don't regard the film footage of him and
one of his right-hand people claiming credit and saying there will be more
attacks against us as proof in itself, even if one had never learned about
all the convictions in U.S. Courts against his operatives for many years.
Even if he did not personally carry out the attacks (pull the trigger) he
orchestrated, ordered and facilitated that trigger and all the other
triggers that killed innocent people in the past 10 or so years.  It's like
the case of Charles Manson - he did not personally murder the victims, but
orchestrated, ordered and facilitated the murders.
Does that justify the killing of innocent children in Afghanistan?  From a
moral standpoint, no.  However, it can also be asked if it is moral for the
Taliban to have not gotten their children out of harm's way when they knew
in advance that attacks were coming for a month?  What kind of parent would
ever put their child in harm's way like that?  Another question - does the
U.S. let perhaps thousands more innocent children and adults be killed by
the terrorists because rather than risk one dead child in Afghanistan.  It's
a moral question that has always been a tough one and there are no easy
answers.

Kakki

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