In a message dated 11/10/2002 9:35:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Specifically - when do you think Joni broke some ground?  And what was her 
> contribution - lyrical...musical. 

Well, I may not be the right one to answer, as I didn't really pick up on 
Joni until C&S, but having listened to her complete works now for awhile and 
being able to trace the sequence, I would say that her composing in unique 
tunings was ground-breaking. Not that she was the first one to do it, but 
that she ONLY wrote in alternates...created such different sounding chord 
shapes & patterns! Even looking back to when "Help Me" came out on the radio, 
it was SO unique and fresh-sounding. Also the way she multi-tracked her own 
vocals; again she didn't invent it but it was the first time I remember 
hearing it. Her approach to playing the piano also sounds 'groundbreaking' to 
me - not being a musician I can't say why, it might just be her chordal 
combinations.

Her sampling of and inclusion of world music in her work - certainly a tired 
cliche now but remember when you heard "Jungle Line" for the first time?

Then of course there are the words. She came right out of the block writing 
in her own blood..."I had a king in a tenement castle..." This was obviously 
autobigraphical, BUT it was so genuine, so purely real that it became 
universal - something we could all relate to. And the images she stirs up 
with her words...also groundbreaking I think. Nary a cliche to be found 
(which is probably why "one big boo hoo" resonates so awkwardly with some of 
us). Additionally, her vocabulary, imagery, & metaphor are unprecedented, 
Dylan notwithstanding. 

And her business sense is also groundbreaking in her way...firstly she 
retained total control over her publishing; rarely if ever done from what I 
understand. And career-wise, where contemporaries find a commercial niche and 
stay there (and nothing wrong with doing so), Joni constantly turns her back 
on commerciality, reinventing herself and following her own direction 
instead, confusing the industry & her casual fanbase, and even confounding 
most of the hardcores like us!

Again, I don't know that she is the FIRST to do any of these, I can only say 
that she is the BEST.

Bob

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