> so TRUE! lately i've been listening to karen's xmas album, and not even
the
> notoriously kitsch hand of brother-cum-pimp richard carpenter can spoil
the
> uncanny, somber beauty of karen's voice.

'Brother-cum-pimp'?  Sorry to be horribly self-righteous n'all, and as I'm
British I know it's letting the side down not to be horribly snide at every
available opportunity, but what the fuck justification do you have for that?

Adam

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