Susan said >>It also seems we have no respect for separation of church and state as we seem intent on liberating states/countries that are heavily based on religion. <<
And talking of church and state, I read today that the Vatican has issued an 18 page vademecum containing certain instructions about how Catholic politicians should act and vote. It expressly forbids them to support abortion, euthanasia and homosexual marriage. It also opposes common law marriages which it claims 'should not be considered to have legal recognition or be considered juridically equal to church-blessed marriages' (my approx translation). There must be more, given the 18 pages but you get the drift. mike in barcelona NPIMH ...you get witch hunts and wars when church and state hold hands...