I know I may appear thick at times. I wasn't telling you I didn't understand you, I was telling you I don't agree with your conslsuion. I don't think your conclusion is logical.

However, if your conclusion is correct, and I have no doubt that future events have been, can be, and will be forseeen, then we are stuffed aren't we? because, according to your theory, it would mean we have no free will and that we are puppets. So evryone is blameless and no amount of worrying or good behaviour, or intelleingence, or enlightenment will alter a damn thing. So fuck it! -:)

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Colin, if you KNOW (as opposed to believe) that Kevin has come in an eggcup, then it must be TRUE that Kevin has come in an eggcup, or else you would only have (falsely) believed it, not known it.

We can only KNOW what is TRUE. And if something is true in the future, it is true always, and therefore true now. If the proposition "Kevin will come in an eggcup on September 22 2010" is true then, it is true now, and always was and always will be true.

So -- if god or a psychic knows that I will do X in the future, it must already be true that I will do X.

And if it is true now that I will do X, it means it is true BEFORE I DO IT. And THAT means, although I felt I had choice when faced with the decision to do X, in fact I had no choice, and there was no decision, just an illusion of one.

A very logical conclusion, in fact. ;-)

Sarah

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