On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Paul Hartmann wrote:
We already have a mechanism to include previously defined "chunks" by
reference in the defaultpresets.xml file. This could be used to include
presets from the editor-presets.xml file at the correct place (or not).
Preferably, when we make the includes, the result should be unchanged or an
improvement.
That is unlikely. When the result is the same then it's a license
violation. And to have a start from scratch improve JOSM presets
everywhere which have many man-months work included is impossible.
And a "do the same but slightly modified" I would reject, because that
would invalidate all translators work for nothing.
Given all that, I see no major reason to block this initiative. We would not
drop what we have, but slowly migrating to something else.
You (all) know my opinion about this approach and I promised not to voice
it too often too loud, so I wont do it again.
I do propose another approach:
- We use the current JOSM internal presets as a common source for JOSM and
iD editor.
- We integrate anything necessary in the format to allow iD and JOSM to
use it (e.g. some keys to disable certain high-level stuff for iD,
something like id=yes/no, but probably with better semantics like
expert=true or similar - probably some fine tuning which also could
help JOSM users)
- We add any improvements which iD may want to the format definition even
if JOSM does not want or use these (like we did for maps file format)
- Converter tools reduce/convert to the final formats used by iD (and/or
JOSM, stripping of unneeded stuff when necessary) althought directly
reading the XML source file is the best way in my eyes.
This procedure should include the translations and icons.
- iD developers caring for preset definitions get SVN access for JOSM SVN
or we move the development of the internal presets file to the Wiki with
restricted access to a trustworthy group.
To make this approach more helpful we could split our preset into an
unified and a JOSM specific part and step by step move the interest parts
into the unified one.
Ciao
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