Oh, and as for the other Apache names having results on TESS, that is
probably because the names are used in completely different industries or
'domains' - something that is usually ok for overlap.

Or if there is anything that comes along with a similar or same name in the
software space, then these Apache projects would probably still be safe as
they would be probably identified as "prior art" [1], having a historical
record (website, mailing lists) proving they were the first to use it in any
recognizable capacity.

IANAL either, but I hope that helps.

Cheers,

Les

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Maarten,
>
> This is a good question.
>
> There is nothing in TESS that shows a potential naming conflict other than
> a result.  That is, if you execute a search for all active entries, and a
> result comes up, odds are high that it would not be a good candidate.  Or if
> you do see a result, be sure it is not software related in any way.
>
> You're right that "Apache Ki" would have been the official name if it
> stood, but the Incubator seemed to come to a consensus that we should change
> the name just in case.  They felt it would be best to find a name with no
> overlap anywhere, just to be safe;  they're trying to limit the possibility
> of anyone starting legal action contending for a name - they could not
> afford to deal with that if it ever surfaced.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Les
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Maarten Bosteels <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ?
>> It could help us understand which names are good candidates.
>>
>> I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL).
>> My apologies if this has all been discussed before.
>>
>> As far as I understand,  the name of the project is "Apache Ki" not just
>> "Ki", so I don't see any conflicts.
>> Same for "Apache JSecurity". I must be missing something here.
>>
>> All Apache project names I tried, generate several hits on TESS: James,
>> MINA, Cocoon, Maven, Cayenne
>>
>> Maarten
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian.
>>>> No hits in TESS.
>>>> Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises.
>>>>
>>>> On 19/05/2009, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Apache Community.
>>>> >
>>>> >  It seems as if our recently changed name of Apache Ki is not free
>>>> from
>>>> >  potential naming conflict problems, and we'll need to change our name
>>>> again.
>>>> >
>>>> >  So, we're reaching out to everyone and anyone who would like to
>>>> contribute a
>>>> >  new name to the suggestion pool.  Here's how the process will work:
>>>> >
>>>> >  1. All new names will be accepted by anyone for 1 week.  Starting
>>>> now,
>>>> >  ending 27 May 2009 Midnight GMT-8.
>>>> >  2. We'll present the compiled list of submitted names in a new email.
>>>> >  Everyone will have 72 hours to vote on their favorite.
>>>> >  3. The top 5 names by vote count will be the finalists.
>>>> >  4. 72 more hours to vote to reduce the list to 2 final names.
>>>> >  5. 1 final 72 hour period to vote on one of these 2 names.  The name
>>>> that
>>>> >  wins by simple majority will be the new project name.
>>>> >
>>>> >  Please ensure any name submission is free and clear to the best of
>>>> your
>>>> >  knowledge from any Trademarks or Patents by performing a search [1].
>>>>  Also
>>>> >  if you can get little or no results in Google and Yahoo, that would
>>>> be a
>>>> >  great candidate too.
>>>> >
>>>> >  Name submission starts NOW.
>>>> >
>>>> >  We look forward to all name suggestions, and we appreciate anyone who
>>>> wishes
>>>> >  to participate!
>>>> >
>>>> >  Thanks so much,
>>>> >
>>>> >  Les Hazlewood
>>>> >  Apache JSecurity/Apache Ki/Apache ??? member
>>>> >
>>>> >  [1]
>>>> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4002:3c9s6h.1.1
>>>> >
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