Hi Jasper,

There might be some confusion here - TESS is not a suggested name for the
project - it is the name of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's search
engine: http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm

Cheers,

Les

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Jasper Siepkes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Regarding the name Tess; I know that the automated assistant of Ziggo
> (largest cable provider here in the Netherlands) is called Tess. Not
> really in the same field, it is software however.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jasper
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:18 +0200, Maarten Bosteels wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >         Hi Maarten,
> >
> >         This is a good question.
> >
> >         There is nothing in TESS that shows a potential naming
> >         conflict other than a result.  That is, if you execute a
> >         search for all active entries, and a result comes up, odds are
> >         high that it would not be a good candidate.  Or if you do see
> >         a result, be sure it is not software related in any way.
> >
> > Hi Les,
> >
> > What I actually meant is this:
> > In your original post, you're saying "It seems as if our recently
> > changed name of Apache Ki is not free from potential naming conflict
> > problems"
> > Where does this info come from ?  Is this info backed by an entry in
> > the TESS database ?  Or an entry in another "intellectual property"
> > database ?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Maarten
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         You're right that "Apache Ki" would have been the official
> >         name if it stood, but the Incubator seemed to come to a
> >         consensus that we should change the name just in case.  They
> >         felt it would be best to find a name with no overlap anywhere,
> >         just to be safe;  they're trying to limit the possibility of
> >         anyone starting legal action contending for a name - they
> >         could not afford to deal with that if it ever surfaced.
> >
> >         Cheers,
> >
> >         Les
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Maarten Bosteels
> >         <[email protected]> wrote:
> >                 Hi Les,
> >
> >                 Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential
> >                 naming conflict ?
> >                 It could help us understand which names are good
> >                 candidates.
> >
> >                 I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL).
> >                 My apologies if this has all been discussed before.
> >
> >                 As far as I understand,  the name of the project is
> >                 "Apache Ki" not just "Ki", so I don't see any
> >                 conflicts.
> >                 Same for "Apache JSecurity". I must be missing
> >                 something here.
> >
> >                 All Apache project names I tried, generate several
> >                 hits on TESS: James, MINA, Cocoon, Maven, Cayenne
> >
> >                 Maarten
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Les Hazlewood
> >                 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >                         Thanks!
> >
> >
> >                         On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, sebb
> >                         <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >                                 PANEKANA - apparently means security
> >                                 in Hawaiian.
> >                                 No hits in TESS.
> >                                 Google shows no hits relating to
> >                                 commercial enterprises.
> >
> >
> >                                 On 19/05/2009, Les Hazlewood
> >                                 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >                                 > Hi Apache Community.
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  It seems as if our recently changed
> >                                 name of Apache Ki is not free from
> >                                 >  potential naming conflict problems,
> >                                 and we'll need to change our name
> >                                 again.
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  So, we're reaching out to everyone
> >                                 and anyone who would like to
> >                                 contribute a
> >                                 >  new name to the suggestion pool.
> >                                  Here's how the process will work:
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  1. All new names will be accepted
> >                                 by anyone for 1 week.  Starting now,
> >                                 >  ending 27 May 2009 Midnight GMT-8.
> >                                 >  2. We'll present the compiled list
> >                                 of submitted names in a new email.
> >                                 >  Everyone will have 72 hours to vote
> >                                 on their favorite.
> >                                 >  3. The top 5 names by vote count
> >                                 will be the finalists.
> >                                 >  4. 72 more hours to vote to reduce
> >                                 the list to 2 final names.
> >                                 >  5. 1 final 72 hour period to vote
> >                                 on one of these 2 names.  The name
> >                                 that
> >                                 >  wins by simple majority will be the
> >                                 new project name.
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  Please ensure any name submission
> >                                 is free and clear to the best of your
> >                                 >  knowledge from any Trademarks or
> >                                 Patents by performing a search [1].
> >                                  Also
> >                                 >  if you can get little or no results
> >                                 in Google and Yahoo, that would be a
> >                                 >  great candidate too.
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  Name submission starts NOW.
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  We look forward to all name
> >                                 suggestions, and we appreciate anyone
> >                                 who wishes
> >                                 >  to participate!
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  Thanks so much,
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  Les Hazlewood
> >                                 >  Apache JSecurity/Apache
> >                                 Ki/Apache ??? member
> >                                 >
> >                                 >  [1]
> >
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4002:3c9s6h.1.1
> >                                 >
> >
> >
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