Hi Maarten,

It started based on this post:
http://www.jsecurity.org/node/1081#comment-289

This apparently was enough for the Incubator to be concerned, hence this new
renaming effort.

Cheers,

Les

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Maarten Bosteels
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Maarten,
>>
>> This is a good question.
>>
>> There is nothing in TESS that shows a potential naming conflict other than
>> a result.  That is, if you execute a search for all active entries, and a
>> result comes up, odds are high that it would not be a good candidate.  Or if
>> you do see a result, be sure it is not software related in any way.
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
> What I actually meant is this:
> In your original post, you're saying "It seems as if our recently changed
> name of Apache Ki is not free from potential naming conflict problems"
> Where does this info come from ?  Is this info backed by an entry in the
> TESS database ?  Or an entry in another "intellectual property" database ?
>
> Best regards
> Maarten
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> You're right that "Apache Ki" would have been the official name if it
>> stood, but the Incubator seemed to come to a consensus that we should change
>> the name just in case.  They felt it would be best to find a name with no
>> overlap anywhere, just to be safe;  they're trying to limit the possibility
>> of anyone starting legal action contending for a name - they could not
>> afford to deal with that if it ever surfaced.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Maarten Bosteels <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Les,
>>>
>>> Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ?
>>> It could help us understand which names are good candidates.
>>>
>>> I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL).
>>> My apologies if this has all been discussed before.
>>>
>>> As far as I understand,  the name of the project is "Apache Ki" not just
>>> "Ki", so I don't see any conflicts.
>>> Same for "Apache JSecurity". I must be missing something here.
>>>
>>> All Apache project names I tried, generate several hits on TESS: James,
>>> MINA, Cocoon, Maven, Cayenne
>>>
>>> Maarten
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian.
>>>>> No hits in TESS.
>>>>> Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/05/2009, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Apache Community.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  It seems as if our recently changed name of Apache Ki is not free
>>>>> from
>>>>> >  potential naming conflict problems, and we'll need to change our
>>>>> name again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  So, we're reaching out to everyone and anyone who would like to
>>>>> contribute a
>>>>> >  new name to the suggestion pool.  Here's how the process will work:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  1. All new names will be accepted by anyone for 1 week.  Starting
>>>>> now,
>>>>> >  ending 27 May 2009 Midnight GMT-8.
>>>>> >  2. We'll present the compiled list of submitted names in a new
>>>>> email.
>>>>> >  Everyone will have 72 hours to vote on their favorite.
>>>>> >  3. The top 5 names by vote count will be the finalists.
>>>>> >  4. 72 more hours to vote to reduce the list to 2 final names.
>>>>> >  5. 1 final 72 hour period to vote on one of these 2 names.  The name
>>>>> that
>>>>> >  wins by simple majority will be the new project name.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Please ensure any name submission is free and clear to the best of
>>>>> your
>>>>> >  knowledge from any Trademarks or Patents by performing a search [1].
>>>>>  Also
>>>>> >  if you can get little or no results in Google and Yahoo, that would
>>>>> be a
>>>>> >  great candidate too.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Name submission starts NOW.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  We look forward to all name suggestions, and we appreciate anyone
>>>>> who wishes
>>>>> >  to participate!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Thanks so much,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Les Hazlewood
>>>>> >  Apache JSecurity/Apache Ki/Apache ??? member
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  [1]
>>>>> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4002:3c9s6h.1.1
>>>>> >
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