Scott man you rule. I wanted to say these for a long time. I am with you
man.


>From: Scott Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Whats up with all these out of office replies??
>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:18:27 -0500
>
>I'm not saying "I'm so good". I'm a beginner too. Been writing JSP for two
>weeks now. But I'm not coming to the board asking for a complete sample
>application that somebody else wrote so that I can plug it in and impress
>my
>boss. People need to bring some specific questions to the board that will
>give them  a "push" not a complete sample application to plug in AFTER they
>understand what the acronym JSP stands for. That goes on any board (besides
>a beginner board) for any language/technology. There's enough dudes putting
>JSP (or whatever) on their resume and then taking clients' money and
>basically screwing them over because they don't know what they're talking
>about. Then they come on the boards and try to get US to write their apps.
>No "pushing" just "write my code so my client doesn't fire me." My clients
>are so gun-shy and abused by the time I get to them that they trust me like
>I'm the devil himself. Partly because somebody took their money and then
>couldn't deliver. Anyway, enough of that whole line of whining.
>
>When I come to the board it's with a SPECIFIC question that I have been
>trying BY EVERY MEANS AVAILABLE for a reasonably long period of time to
>figure out.
>
>There's a difference between a "push" and "do all of my research and work
>for me". You are right, I should shut up. But I'm not saying "everybody
>else
>sucks" or "I'm so good." Just want to make that point.
>
>I also try to do a little "tongue in cheek" and make a light-hearted joke
>about it making fun of myself for being on my "soapbox". Everyone calm
>down.
>Go back in your homes, there's nothing to see here people.
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sandarbh Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:39 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Whats up with all these out of office replies??
>
>
>U R right DON. with you
>sandarbh
>
> >From: Don Makoviney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> >     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Whats up with all these out of office replies??
> >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:24:11 -0500
> >
> >You guys should really come down off of your high horses. You were a
> >beginner once too. Oftentimes these people just need a push in the right
> >direction. You really shouldn't be discouraging new JSP people, but
>instead
> >build the community up. If it really becomes a problem, then there should
> >be
> >a beginners and advanced list - then you can flame the hell out of any
>lame
> >questions posted to the advanced list. Otherwise, the beginner - and
> >sometimes lame - questions will never stop, and we'll constantly have to
> >listen to - not only the lame questions - but also your insufferable
> >whining
> >polluting our inboxes about how great you are and how everybody else
>sucks.
> >This thread is just as annoying as an out of office reply.
> >
> >And also, I think the inordinate amount of out-of-office replies was
>merely
> >due to the Holidays. . . .I'm sure they will be much less in this and the
> >coming weeks. So stop adding to the wasted emails cluttering my inbox,
>and
> >try to help out the list.
> >
> >If you don't like it, you can always unsubscribe. Besides, you sound like
> >you're so good Scott, that you don't need this list anyway.
> >
> >Don Makoviney
> >
>
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