Kalau kerah biru bisa jadi kerah putih, kasihlah. Tapi kalau kerah putih kemampuan dibawah kerah biru. What is ur action?
On 3/23/10, Adelwin, Adelwin <adelwin.adel...@sc.com> wrote: > Disini lu salah besarrrrr... > > Apa sih asset perusahaan? > > The building? The knowledge? The product? Or the programmer? > > Bagi gue... programmer nya... > > Lu mau programmer lu macam programmer yang blind code... > > Lu bilang A... die tulis A... > > Kalo gitu sekarang lu cobain pake outsource... > > Liat seberapa makan ati nya... > > Liat berubah gak pandapat lu... > > Programmer ituh kerjaan kerah putih... bukan kerah biru... > > Karna lu berhasil groom anak2 SMK apa ituh berarti lubisa merendahkan > posisi programmer? > > Salah... > > Salah besaaarrrrr... > > And a bit offensive I might add... > > > > Adelwin Handoyo | Senior Consultant - Wholesale Bank > Standard Chartered Bank > Plaza By The Park #06-00, 51 Bras Basah Road. Singapore (189554) > T : (65) 655 72432 | E adelwin.adel...@sc.com > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:jug-indone...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frans Thamura > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:22 PM > To: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Re: [OOT] Tanya IQ minimal untuk jadi > Programmer > > > > > > gue melihat sekarang programmer itu seperti buruh pabrik, kerjanya dah > bisa dibuat template, gak perlu IQ tinggi kok, yang perlu adalah dia mau > digaji rendah dan juga loyal mengacu pada peraturan pemerintah. UMR :) > > > > terus baru deh kita ikutin naikin sampe batas kekuatan persaingan > perusahaan > > > > sepertinya dg model template, IQ jeblok, mat dodol, buta warna masih > bisa > > > > malah tuli aja masih bisa lah ...tapi gue gak pernah dapat sih yang > kasus accessabilitas yang ini. > > > > > > > -- > Frans Thamura > Meruvian. > Experiential Tempation of Java and Enterprise OpenSource > > Meruvian jTechnopreneur Program (S1) telah hadir, Dapatkan benefit bagi > SMK yang melakukan mapping SKKD, dg program beasiswa dari Gunadarma > > Mobile: +6287885901958 > Blog & Profile: http://frans.thamura.info <http://frans.thamura.info> > > We provide services to migrate your apps to Java (web), in amazing fast > and reliable. > > > > 2010/3/23 Adek <lailia...@gmail.com <mailto:lailia...@gmail.com> > > > klo menurut pendapat saia, menjadi programmer atau software developer > bukan terutama masalah IQ tapi lebih ke attitude :D > > just an opinion.. > > barusan aja baca dari tech republic : 10 signs that you aren't cut out > to be a developer > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=255&tag=rbxccnbtr1 > <http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=255&tag=rbxccnbtr1> > > regards > adek > > --- In jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com> , Bayuadji <bayua...@...> wrote: >> >> 2010/3/22 Martinus Johan Wahyudi <mjwahy...@...> > >> >> > >> > >> > hadohhh, kemarin ada yg nanya range gaji, skrg ada yg nanya soal > IQ.. >> > tambah aneh2 aja nanyannya :)) >> > Ga perlu IQ tinggi2, yg penting bisa diajak ngomong ama PM-nya, ga > perlu >> > pinter matematika juga, wong programmer itu cm user.. >> > kecuali klo bikin sendiri konsep komputasinya, mungkin perlu pinter >> > matematika.. >> > >> > Ya tergantung juga, kalo 3d game developer atau core developer >> matlab/mathematica paling gak harus jago trigonometri lah :P, >> >> -adji- >> >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.tumbletooth.org <http://www.tumbletooth.org> >> my linkedin profile : http://www.linkedin.com/in/bayuadji > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bayuadji> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Kalau mau keluar dari mailing list ini, caranya kirim sebuah email ke > jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com> . > > Jangan lupa, website JUG Indonesia adalah http://www.jug.or.id > <http://www.jug.or.id> > > Yahoo! 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