Kerah biru --> kerah yang warnanya biru. Kerah putih --> kerah yang warnanya putih.
:) salam -adji- On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Ferdinand Neman <new...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Maafkan atas kebodohan saya, > Kerah biru itu apa ? > Kerah putih itu apa ? > > Salam. > > 2010/3/23 Adelwin Handoyo <adel...@gmail.com> > > >> >> U’re not getting the point... >> Kalo kerah biru nya mampu kerjain.. Kasih lah... >> Tapi bukan berarti lu bisa pukul rata karna ada 1 kerah biru yang bisa >> kerjain .. Lalu ini kerjaan kerah biru khan? >> Disitu lu salah! >> * >> Adelwin Handoyo >> *- adel...@gmail.com - >> Sent from my Mac >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org> >> *Reply-To: *JUG-Indonesia <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com> >> *Date: *Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:08:26 +0700 >> *To: *JUG-Indonesia <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com> >> >> *Subject: *Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Re: [OOT] Tanya IQ minimal untuk jadi >> Programmer >> >> Kalau kerah biru bisa jadi kerah putih, kasihlah. Tapi kalau kerah >> putih kemampuan dibawah kerah biru. What is ur action? >> >> On 3/23/10, Adelwin, Adelwin <adelwin.adel...@sc.com> wrote: >> > Disini lu salah besarrrrr... >> > >> > Apa sih asset perusahaan? >> > >> > The building? The knowledge? The product? Or the programmer? >> > >> > Bagi gue... programmer nya... >> > >> > Lu mau programmer lu macam programmer yang blind code... >> > >> > Lu bilang A... die tulis A... >> > >> > Kalo gitu sekarang lu cobain pake outsource... >> > >> > Liat seberapa makan ati nya... >> > >> > Liat berubah gak pandapat lu... >> > >> > Programmer ituh kerjaan kerah putih... bukan kerah biru... >> > >> > Karna lu berhasil groom anak2 SMK apa ituh berarti lubisa merendahkan >> > posisi programmer? >> > >> > Salah... >> > >> > Salah besaaarrrrr... >> > >> > And a bit offensive I might add... >> > >> > >> > >> > Adelwin Handoyo | Senior Consultant - Wholesale Bank >> > Standard Chartered Bank >> > Plaza By The Park #06-00, 51 Bras Basah Road. Singapore (189554) >> > T : (65) 655 72432 | E adelwin.adel...@sc.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com >> > [mailto:jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com>] >> On Behalf Of Frans Thamura >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:22 PM >> > To: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Re: [OOT] Tanya IQ minimal untuk jadi >> > Programmer >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > gue melihat sekarang programmer itu seperti buruh pabrik, kerjanya dah >> > bisa dibuat template, gak perlu IQ tinggi kok, yang perlu adalah dia mau >> > digaji rendah dan juga loyal mengacu pada peraturan pemerintah. UMR :) >> > >> > >> > >> > terus baru deh kita ikutin naikin sampe batas kekuatan persaingan >> > perusahaan >> > >> > >> > >> > sepertinya dg model template, IQ jeblok, mat dodol, buta warna masih >> > bisa >> > >> > >> > >> > malah tuli aja masih bisa lah ...tapi gue gak pernah dapat sih yang >> > kasus accessabilitas yang ini. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Frans Thamura >> > Meruvian. >> > Experiential Tempation of Java and Enterprise OpenSource >> > >> > Meruvian jTechnopreneur Program (S1) telah hadir, Dapatkan benefit bagi >> > SMK yang melakukan mapping SKKD, dg program beasiswa dari Gunadarma >> > >> > Mobile: +6287885901958 >> > Blog & Profile: http://frans.thamura.info <http://frans.thamura.info> >> > >> > We provide services to migrate your apps to Java (web), in amazing fast >> > and reliable. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2010/3/23 Adek <lailia...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:lailia...@gmail.com<lailia...@gmail.com>> >> > >> > >> > klo menurut pendapat saia, menjadi programmer atau software developer >> > bukan terutama masalah IQ tapi lebih ke attitude :D >> > >> > just an opinion.. >> > >> > barusan aja baca dari tech republic : 10 signs that you aren't cut out >> > to be a developer >> > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=255&tag=rbxccnbtr1 >> > <http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=255&tag=rbxccnbtr1> >> > >> > regards >> > adek >> > >> > --- In jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com >> > <mailto:jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com>> >> , Bayuadji <bayua...@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2010/3/22 Martinus Johan Wahyudi <mjwahy...@...> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > hadohhh, kemarin ada yg nanya range gaji, skrg ada yg nanya soal >> > IQ.. >> >> > tambah aneh2 aja nanyannya :)) >> >> > Ga perlu IQ tinggi2, yg penting bisa diajak ngomong ama PM-nya, ga >> > perlu >> >> > pinter matematika juga, wong programmer itu cm user.. >> >> > kecuali klo bikin sendiri konsep komputasinya, mungkin perlu pinter >> >> > matematika.. >> >> > >> >> > Ya tergantung juga, kalo 3d game developer atau core developer >> >> matlab/mathematica paling gak harus jago trigonometri lah :P, >> >> >> >> -adji- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www.tumbletooth.org <http://www.tumbletooth.org> >> >> my linkedin profile : http://www.linkedin.com/in/bayuadji >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bayuadji> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Kalau mau keluar dari mailing list ini, caranya kirim sebuah email ke >> > jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com >> > <mailto:jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com<jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com>> >> . >> > >> > Jangan lupa, website JUG Indonesia adalah http://www.jug.or.id >> > <http://www.jug.or.id> >> > >> > Yahoo! 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