Hei,
Uwe's points are valid objections/drawbacks.
However for me the (graphical) benefits "overweight" these "reload"
problems.
So I vote to go with the new Framework!
On point 3 (load time) one could look for improvements probably.
stefan
Uwe Dalluege wrote:
Hi Paul,
let me explain why I like the "old" Load Dataset(s)... dialog:
1. When I choose in the ComboBox a format (JUMP GML, ESRI, PostGIS ...)
the next time this format is default.
I have not to choose the format again!
For example: I choose one time the format "PostGIS Table" then
the next time I use Load Dataset(s)... the format
"PostGIS Table" is default and
the PostGIS dialog appears!
In the "Open Wizard" I have to choose the format again.
2. The "Load Dataset(s)..." dialog has the same
Look and Feel like the "Save Datset As".
So it is easy for the user to use it.
3. The Load Dataset(s)... DialogWindow
appears very quick ( < 1 sec. ).
On my computer the Open Wizard Dialog takes about 5 seconds
to appear.
Regards
Uwe
Paul Austin schrieb:
So here are the options to vote on
1. Single Open... wizard icon in the toolbar using the Folder icon
with the + icon in the bottom left (currently used for open file).
The open file in the menu would also be changed to use a folder
icon with a page on it.
2. The Open... wizard icon in the toolbar and the Open File... wizard
with the ESRI style plus icon
I did not include an option to keep the old Load Dataset dialog in
this list.
Paul
Larry Becker wrote:
Let's put it to a vote then. I'll support whatever the majority wants.
Larry
On 10/31/07, *Paul Austin* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Larry,
Uwe wanted the + icon for the Open... wizard so he can use it for
the PostGIS plug-in which is not in the Open File... wizard.
Copying the ESRI icon is not a good idea as it's their copyright.
I'm still not comfortable with this we only need one icon on the
toolbar the Open... wizard. With an appropriate icon, which I feel
is the Folder with the Plus. Because you are Opening something
(file, database table wms connection etc) to Add as a Layer (well
or not in the case of a project but that's the only weird one)
Paul
Larry Becker wrote:
I think that the toolbar folder for the open wizard and a plus +
sign for the Open File is what is needed. There is no overlap
there. We can even use a yellow plus to be more like ESRI and
less like Load Datasets.
Larry
On 10/31/07, *Sunburned Surveyor* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Paul wrote: "The only reason I'm resistant is that when
designing the
UI we should reduce the different numbers of ways to do
things for the
same function."
I didn't think about this. I agree it is better to reduce the
number
of ways to access the same functionality. AutoCAD always
has 50
different ways to do the same thing, which can lead to
confusion,
especially for new users.
Jukka wrote: "I reed plus sign like 'Add' . Perhaps Folder
icon suits
better when you are opening something..."
Good point Jukka.
The Sunburned Surveyor
On 10/31/07, Rahkonen Jukka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I reed plus sign like 'Add' . Perhaps Folder icon suits
better when you are
> opening something that is ready made, that is, stored
project? Quite othen
> you are building your project by collecting data from
different places into
> your collection and using + sign is rather intuitive. Not
so important
> though, I believe both ways can be learned.
>
> -Jukka-
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> Lähetetty: 31. lokakuuta 2007 17:27
> Vastaanottaja: JUMP Users Discussion
> Aihe: Re: [jump-users] Nice OpenJump review
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I think the menu icons are fine and great for new
users. The + icon on
> the toolbor is for ESRI users like the reviewer and
long-time JUMP users.
> It is more important to please both users than following an
kind of design
> aesthetic.
>
> Larry
>
> On 10/31/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > Larry,
> >
> > I think we should have our own GUI/Icon style rather than
just following
> > the design of ESRI tools, Now when coming up with that
style we can take
> > into account design elements such as what is used in
general software
> > and also GIS software so that any computer user would be
able to work
> > out the function of the icon.
> >
> > As a compramise, let's have the following icons for the
open menu items
> > and toolbar (slightly different from now)
> >
> > Open... The folder with the +
> > Open File... The folder with a page
> > Open Project.. The folder with the project you created.
> >
> >
> > Uwe,
> >
> > I'm not sure why you think the new Open Wizard is a hard
way to load
> > PostGIS tables, in the old method you selected a drop down
then entered
> > the parameters. With the new one you double click an icon
and then enter
> > the parameters. And if someone wants to they can create a
new panel for
> > the parameters to include validation of those parameters,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
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