Igor:
Actually...I compiled the latest stuff in Release mode,
then deleted the GnucleusProto.dll file, and Kaboodle started
up fine. That's the whole point of this modification request. :)
I'm not so worried about "debug assertion failures" as I am
worried about the application not starting up.
As for WinPCAP, I believe the check to see if it's
installed is already in the snifferthread code. VK, can you
identify where that check is exactly?
-Scott
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> Hello Scott.
> It is not possible to use the option
> _DYNAMIC_LINK_GNUCLEUSPROTO_DLL
> in RELEASE mode, because the application will crash.
> Regrettably I did not write that yesterday.
>
> Now the "Component" tab shows 4 items always.
> - Gnucleus, the status is "Active" always.
> - VNC, the status is "Not Installed" if VNC Server was not installed,
> otherwise "Active"
> (though the application have enough data to show status "Installed").
> - WinPCAP, the status is "Active" always.
> - ZeBeDee, the status is "Active" always.
>
> I'll insert "Not Installed" status for both WinPCAP and ZeBeDee components
> in future, when the application will have additional data for that.
>
> - Igor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Kaboodle-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Components tab
>
>
> > Igor:
> > This looks pretty good. Can we change it so that if we're
> > in RELEASE mode, the _DYNAMIC_LINK_GNUCLEUSPROTO_DLL is defined, but
> > if we're in DEBUG mode, then it builds with _DYNAMIC_LINK_GNU...
> > undefined. That'll prevent unneeded "Debug assertion" message boxes.
> >
> > We can update the "Components" tab as well, now, so that
> > it includes Gnucleus as an element.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Scott.
> > > You wrote:
> > > > Okay, we should fix that first. Kaboodle shouldn't require
> > > > GnucleusProto.dll to run. If it's not there, the user simply cannot
> > > > use the VPN capability.
> > > I implemented that. But there is a problem.
> > > There absent a short way for good such implementation.
> > > It is a particularity of MFC library:
> > > GnucleusProto.dll creates an object, which inherit from MFC class
> CWinApp.
> > > Kaboodle.exe also creates such object.
> > > It is a rule of MFC - only single object CWinApp.
> > > If we use *static* link of GnucleusProto.dll
> > > - then above rule can be break up.
> > > But if we use *dynamic* link of GnucleusProto.dll - then above rule
> live,
> > > and we have many MessageBoxs *debug assertion failed*.
> > >
> > > Please remove a commentary from the line
> > > / / #define _DYNAMIC_LINK_GNUCLEUSPROTO_DLL
> > > in the file stdafx.h and you'll get what you want.
> > > The application works, but there is 5 MessageBoxs *debug assertion
> failed*.
> > > There need a full rewriting of GnucleusProto.dll source code,
> > > if we want to get a correct work of the application
> > > without above MessageBoxs.
> > > Above alteration will require refusal of use the object CWinApp.
> > > Therefore we cannot use MFC library on all amounts.
> > >
> > > - Igor
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "Kaboodle-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 8:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Components tab
> > >
> > >
> > > > Igor:
> > > > Sorry for the late reply about this. Some comments inline:
> > > >
> > > > > > What 'd like it to show is a list of the add-on binaries
> > > > > > that Kaboodle uses: Gnucleus, VNC, WinPCAP, ZeBeDee.
> > > > > There are members of two kind in above list:
> > > > > a) - Binaries, which are *obligatory* part of Kaboodle.
> > > > > Without them a user cannot to run Kaboodle.
> > > > > Please try to remove GnucleusProto.dll and start Kaboodle.
> > > > > You will see a MessageBox
> > > > > *The dynamic link library GnucleusProto.dll
> > > > > could not be found in the specified path...*
> > > > > and Kaboodle didn't runs.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, we should fix that first. Kaboodle shouldn't require
> > > > GnucleusProto.dll to run. If it's not there, the user simply cannot
> > > > use the VPN capability.
> > > >
> > > > > Also I know that Kaboodle always activate GnucleusProto.dll at
> > > > > start up. I guess that Kaboodle will activate ZeBeDee at start
> > > > > up also. (I didn't know that Kaboodle uses WinPCAP now.)
> > > >
> > > > See, if this feature was working, you'd know that Kaboodle
> > > > was trying to use WinPCAP. :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It seems to me that it is not interesting for user to see
> > > > > an information about such binaries.
> > > > > I suggest didn't include in "Components" list binaries,
> > > > > which are *obligatory* part of Kaboodle.
> > > > > Otherwise the status of them will be "active" always.
> > > > > There are many other system binaries,
> > > > > which are *obligatory* part of Kaboodle, for example:
> > > > > ws2_32.dll, Rpcrt4.dll, Crypt32.dll, netapi32.dll, mpr.dll, etc.
> > > > > You can open Kaboodle in "Dependency Walker"
> > > > > - Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\depends.exe
> > > > > and see list of all binaries, which used by Kaboodle.
> > > > > There are several tens of such binaries.
> > > > > Why we need show GnucleusProto and don't need show above tens?
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to show system binaries, but I do want to
> > > > list optional component binaries. My list right now is: Gnucleus,
> > > > VNC, WinPCAP, ZeBeDee. Each of them should have a status field
> > > > that says either "Active" or "Not Installed".
> > > >
> > > > > b) - Binaries, which are *optional* part of Kaboodle,
> > > > > but which allow to expand Kaboodle's functionality.
> > > > > For example, VNC is such binary.
> > > > > If a user will open "Components" tab and see that VNC didn't
> installed
> > > > > yet, then the user can click "Get Info" button and
> > > > > see how interesting VNC service is.
> > > > > After that the user may be decide to install VNC.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I suggest include in "Components" list binaries,
> > > > > which are of kind 1.b only.
> > > > > Please let me know what you think about that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think we pretty much agree. Gnucleus, VNC, WinPCAP,
> > > > and ZeBeDee are all optional parts of Kaboodle and should be
> > > > listed.
> > > >
> > > > > 2. Now I see only single component VNC,
> > > > > which can be implemented in above tab.
> > > > > I suggest divide that component into two parts:
> > > > > VNC server and VNC viewer and show both these parts independently.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it's very unusual for a system to have one
> > > > and not the other. I'd rather it just have one line that says
> > > > either "Active" or "Not Installed".
> > > >
> > > > I'd also like to change the layout of the Components
> > > > tab so that it looks like the "Main" tab of the VNC Service
> > > > icon. That is, it has some explanation text on the left, and
> > > > then a scrollable list of Components in the middle, and then
> > > > then "Get Info" and "Homepage" buttons either on the right
> > > > or at the bottom. The explanation text can read "Kaboodle
> > > > makes use of a number of other standalone applications to
> > > > achieve its overall functionality (hence the name!). A list
> > > > of these components, and their installation status, is shown
> > > > here".
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: "Kaboodle-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:56 AM
> > > > > Subject: Components tab
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Igor:
> > > > > > Now that the "Web Config" is working, in addition to
> > > > > > the interface bug problem, here's what I was hoping you could
> > > > > > work on: the Component tab of a PC running Kaboodle is currently
> > > > > > empty. What 'd like it to show is a list of the add-on binaries
> > > > > > that Kaboodle uses: Gnucleus, VNC, WinPCAP, ZeBeDee. For each
> > > > > > of these components, I'd like there to be a column called
> > > > > > "status" which indicates whether the binary is installed and
> > > > > > active or not. Each one of these components should be select'able,
> > > > > > and the user can click a "Get Info" button, which will open
> > > > > > a messageBox that tells about the binary (have a look at
> > > > > > www.Kaboodele.org, click on "Components", for some sample text).
> > > > > > I'd also like there to be a "Homepage" button underneath the
> > > > > > "Get Info" button -- clicking on that while a components is
> > > > > > selected will open a browser to that app's homepage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You've seem to got a good feel about how I like the
> > > > > > PropertyTabs to be laid out, so feel free to design it as you
> > > > > > have been doing. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Scott
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