Igor:
        Aryeh brings up a good point: which HD serial number, the
ESN or the VSN are we now using?

-Scott

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Aryeh Goretsky wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Did you mean the embedded serial number (ESN) which is stored in the
> drive's firmware or the volume serial number (VSN) in DOS and Windows
> (and possible OS/2) formatted volumes?
>
> The latter is quite easy to change, either by reformatting or running
> a free utility such as Systernals' VolumeID.  Also, it is a DOS/Windows
> construct and may not map easily to *nix and Mac file systems.
>
> Getting the ESN might be more difficult but it will provide a better
> way of authenticating users, which will become much more important if
> we start charging for various value-added services.
>
> We had this issue at Tribal Voice (trying to identify paid users' PCs
> from non-paid users) and as I recall here's a list of unique "things"
> to look at on a PC:
>
> o  network interface MAC ID
> o  Processor Serial Number (if any)
> o  ESN from hard drive(s)
> o  system ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> o  video ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
>
> And on the software side:
>
> o  operating system serial number
> o  operating system licensed owner
> o  VSN from hard drive(s)
>
> We also discussed collecting information such as drive size, operating
> system version, processor frequency and stepping information RAM amount,
> display size and palette depth for statistical purposes (e.g., figuring
> out what sort of platforms we should be developing for).
>
> Regards,
>
> Aryeh Goretsky
>
>
> At 05:06 PM 11/15/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Igor:
> >         Heya. I haven't tested things yet, but just wanted to
> >comment: using the HD serial number is a *much* better identifier
> >than the MAC address. Good idea. MAC address can be spoofed for
> >one, and they can be proxy'd in a switch-setting.
> >
> >-Scott
>
> [...snip...]
>
>




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