Hello Scott.
Now Kaboodle uses the WinApi function
*GetVolumeInformation()* for determination HD serial number
(please see the MSDN).
I think that it is like *the VSN*.
- Igor

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Aryeh Goretsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master Node
bugs]


> Igor:
> Aryeh brings up a good point: which HD serial number, the
> ESN or the VSN are we now using?
>
> -Scott
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Aryeh Goretsky wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > Did you mean the embedded serial number (ESN) which is stored in the
> > drive's firmware or the volume serial number (VSN) in DOS and Windows
> > (and possible OS/2) formatted volumes?
> >
> > The latter is quite easy to change, either by reformatting or running
> > a free utility such as Systernals' VolumeID.  Also, it is a DOS/Windows
> > construct and may not map easily to *nix and Mac file systems.
> >
> > Getting the ESN might be more difficult but it will provide a better
> > way of authenticating users, which will become much more important if
> > we start charging for various value-added services.
> >
> > We had this issue at Tribal Voice (trying to identify paid users' PCs
> > from non-paid users) and as I recall here's a list of unique "things"
> > to look at on a PC:
> >
> > o  network interface MAC ID
> > o  Processor Serial Number (if any)
> > o  ESN from hard drive(s)
> > o  system ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> > o  video ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> >
> > And on the software side:
> >
> > o  operating system serial number
> > o  operating system licensed owner
> > o  VSN from hard drive(s)
> >
> > We also discussed collecting information such as drive size, operating
> > system version, processor frequency and stepping information RAM amount,
> > display size and palette depth for statistical purposes (e.g., figuring
> > out what sort of platforms we should be developing for).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Aryeh Goretsky
> >
> >
> > At 05:06 PM 11/15/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Igor:
> > >         Heya. I haven't tested things yet, but just wanted to
> > >comment: using the HD serial number is a *much* better identifier
> > >than the MAC address. Good idea. MAC address can be spoofed for
> > >one, and they can be proxy'd in a switch-setting.
> > >
> > >-Scott
> >
> > [...snip...]
> >
> >
>
>
>



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