Hello Scott. Is seems to me as very non-typical variant if a PC changes itself MAC by any way. But of course good application have to consider that variant also. The next thing is implemented: Kaboodle saves the current value of the MAC in the registry. Every time if it starts, then it compares the *current* MAC and *previous* MAC from the registry. If they are not identical, then Kaboodle empties itself registry and become a *new life*. All my changes are in the CVS server. - Igor
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master Node bugs] > Igor: > Using the VSN is fine, even if it's changable. One problem, > though: if I start Kaboodle on a PC with a network card, let it > discover the LAN, then shut it down and start it up again on that > PC with the network card not attached, it hangs up. If I start it > for the first time, with a new registry, it uses the VSN number and > is fine. > Thanks for looking into this. > > -Scott > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > Hello Scott. > > Now Kaboodle uses the WinApi function > > *GetVolumeInformation()* for determination HD serial number > > (please see the MSDN). > > I think that it is like *the VSN*. > > - Igor > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Aryeh Goretsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master Node > > bugs] > > > > > > > Igor: > > > Aryeh brings up a good point: which HD serial number, the > > > ESN or the VSN are we now using? > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Aryeh Goretsky wrote: > > > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > > Did you mean the embedded serial number (ESN) which is stored in the > > > > drive's firmware or the volume serial number (VSN) in DOS and Windows > > > > (and possible OS/2) formatted volumes? > > > > > > > > The latter is quite easy to change, either by reformatting or running > > > > a free utility such as Systernals' VolumeID. Also, it is a DOS/Windows > > > > construct and may not map easily to *nix and Mac file systems. > > > > > > > > Getting the ESN might be more difficult but it will provide a better > > > > way of authenticating users, which will become much more important if > > > > we start charging for various value-added services. > > > > > > > > We had this issue at Tribal Voice (trying to identify paid users' PCs > > > > from non-paid users) and as I recall here's a list of unique "things" > > > > to look at on a PC: > > > > > > > > o network interface MAC ID > > > > o Processor Serial Number (if any) > > > > o ESN from hard drive(s) > > > > o system ROM BIOS serial number (if any) > > > > o video ROM BIOS serial number (if any) > > > > > > > > And on the software side: > > > > > > > > o operating system serial number > > > > o operating system licensed owner > > > > o VSN from hard drive(s) > > > > > > > > We also discussed collecting information such as drive size, operating > > > > system version, processor frequency and stepping information RAM amount, > > > > display size and palette depth for statistical purposes (e.g., figuring > > > > out what sort of platforms we should be developing for). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Aryeh Goretsky > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:06 PM 11/15/2002 +0000, you wrote: > > > > >Igor: > > > > > Heya. I haven't tested things yet, but just wanted to > > > > >comment: using the HD serial number is a *much* better identifier > > > > >than the MAC address. Good idea. MAC address can be spoofed for > > > > >one, and they can be proxy'd in a switch-setting. > > > > > > > > > >-Scott > > > > > > > > [...snip...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Kaboodle-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kaboodle-devel
