Igor:
I think this is the best approach. Good idea.
-Scott
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> Hello Scott.
> Is seems to me as very non-typical variant if a PC changes itself MAC
> by any way.
> But of course good application have to consider that variant also.
> The next thing is implemented:
> Kaboodle saves the current value of the MAC in the registry.
> Every time if it starts, then it compares the *current* MAC and
> *previous* MAC from the registry.
> If they are not identical, then Kaboodle empties itself registry and
> become a *new life*.
> All my changes are in the CVS server.
> - Igor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master Node
> bugs]
>
>
> > Igor:
> > Using the VSN is fine, even if it's changable. One problem,
> > though: if I start Kaboodle on a PC with a network card, let it
> > discover the LAN, then shut it down and start it up again on that
> > PC with the network card not attached, it hangs up. If I start it
> > for the first time, with a new registry, it uses the VSN number and
> > is fine.
> > Thanks for looking into this.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Scott.
> > > Now Kaboodle uses the WinApi function
> > > *GetVolumeInformation()* for determination HD serial number
> > > (please see the MSDN).
> > > I think that it is like *the VSN*.
> > > - Igor
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Aryeh Goretsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master
> Node
> > > bugs]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Igor:
> > > > Aryeh brings up a good point: which HD serial number, the
> > > > ESN or the VSN are we now using?
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Aryeh Goretsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you mean the embedded serial number (ESN) which is stored in the
> > > > > drive's firmware or the volume serial number (VSN) in DOS and
> Windows
> > > > > (and possible OS/2) formatted volumes?
> > > > >
> > > > > The latter is quite easy to change, either by reformatting or
> running
> > > > > a free utility such as Systernals' VolumeID. Also, it is a
> DOS/Windows
> > > > > construct and may not map easily to *nix and Mac file systems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Getting the ESN might be more difficult but it will provide a better
> > > > > way of authenticating users, which will become much more important
> if
> > > > > we start charging for various value-added services.
> > > > >
> > > > > We had this issue at Tribal Voice (trying to identify paid users'
> PCs
> > > > > from non-paid users) and as I recall here's a list of unique
> "things"
> > > > > to look at on a PC:
> > > > >
> > > > > o network interface MAC ID
> > > > > o Processor Serial Number (if any)
> > > > > o ESN from hard drive(s)
> > > > > o system ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> > > > > o video ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> > > > >
> > > > > And on the software side:
> > > > >
> > > > > o operating system serial number
> > > > > o operating system licensed owner
> > > > > o VSN from hard drive(s)
> > > > >
> > > > > We also discussed collecting information such as drive size,
> operating
> > > > > system version, processor frequency and stepping information RAM
> amount,
> > > > > display size and palette depth for statistical purposes (e.g.,
> figuring
> > > > > out what sort of platforms we should be developing for).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Aryeh Goretsky
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:06 PM 11/15/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > > >Igor:
> > > > > > Heya. I haven't tested things yet, but just wanted to
> > > > > >comment: using the HD serial number is a *much* better identifier
> > > > > >than the MAC address. Good idea. MAC address can be spoofed for
> > > > > >one, and they can be proxy'd in a switch-setting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > [...snip...]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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