https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508196
--- Comment #94 from pallaswept <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Gabriel Tenita from comment #90) It's good to see someone actually taking a view to resolving this and actually recognising BOTH sides of this. Your post was a breath of fresh air, thank you. > Well, being passionate communicates better by being accommodating. I've always been accommodating. See id you can find anyone who's actually spent as much time as me looking into BOTH sides of this discussion, and taking the time to document it. You might not be aware, and some of it isn't even there any more courtesy of badmins siding with obvious trolls, but this has been ongoing for some months prior to being here, on the discuss forums. And in spite of taking the time out to explain it and try to work toward a solution, all I've had are months of trolls, and moderators saying they aren't trolling, while I have to setup spam filters on my personal email because they spilled over from the forum to here to there. These trolls seems to take great enjoyment in completely ignoring all the things I've said in support of them. Just to pick the first of such supportive comments I see in this thread: > That's a real problem, nobody is denying that. Everyone wants dolphin to be > intuitive. But the response is the same like a bad echo in here: 'it should be the same as all the other file managers'. Something I think I've taken more time than I should have needed to demonstrate is inarguably false, because a) dolphin isn't comparable to all the other file managers and b) the other file managers don't even act like that anyway. Like every single post it's the same: > I am using Dolphin v25.08.3 from the Kubuntu Backports PPA which behaves like > "any other file manager", I am sorry to break this to you. OBVIOUS TROLLING. It's not even a question. Now, behind the trolls, I'm pretty sure a few people did legitimately get tripped up by this. It's not like Windows, they're fresh from Windows, it's gonna be confusing. It's only fair. My issue isn't that these guys have a problem and find the new behaviour unintuitive and I've never said it shouldn't be a goal to make it intuitive, in fact I've specifically said it should be intuitive for everyone - just to grab two handy examples: > Everyone wants dolphin to be intuitive. > A uniform solution that's intuitive for everyone But like I said before: > to make it intuitive to users of an inferior tool, is not something best > achieved by simply making Dolphin an inferior tool, too. And the ONLY solution being offered by these trolls - over and over, without any exception or any effort whatsoever to find a better way to deal with it - and which isn't a real solution because they aren't trying to solve a problem, they're literally only trolling; is "it should act like all the others". It's complete nonsense and the fact that KDE are not only allowing but now encouraging this kind of obvious abuse of actual long-time contributors is just shameful. > So, instead of trying to enforce global behaviours, the better solution > would be to adopt the least friction behaviour for each view. That makes sense for users who only use the one view or the other, but we don't all do that. It's actually really handy to have a pane open with giant video thumbnails and another one in details mode for moving said video files around - and obviously it's kinda unintuitive if it's switching behaviour all the time. But ideas for actual solutions are good so don't be discouraged, keep em coming, please, and thank you! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
