> On Oct. 8, 2013, 4:47 p.m., Jonathan Marten wrote:
> > I'm not totally happy with this change.  Yes, the internal viewer is 
> > limited in functionality, but it has advantages:  (1) it is fast to open 
> > and can be closed again with a single keystroke;  (2) it remembers its size 
> > and can be resized without affecting the default window size of, say, 
> > KWrite or whichever external application is used;  (3) it can be forced to 
> > display an archive component of any type as plain text.
> > 
> > There's nothing wrong with having the facility to open an archive component 
> > in its default application (or any other application), but it should be an 
> > option.  Either a configuration setting (Use internal viewer - Use external 
> > application), or a context menu with options View (in the internal viewer), 
> > Open (in the default application) or Open With... (any other application).
> 
> Sven Brauch wrote:
>     I guessed some people would not be happy with it, but it was worth a try 
> ;)
>     
>     How about a context menu action? Or, since the context menu is currently 
> empty, just opening the external viewer on right-click?
> 
> Jonathan Marten wrote:
>     Not sure that changing the function of the right-click would be approved 
> of (but then, I'm not the ark maintainer or authority, just an intensive user 
> of it).  Maybe the middle button?
>     
>     There has been some discussion about adding a context menu to Ark before 
> now - e.g. bug #166203.
>
> 
> Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>     Honestly, to most people the internal viewer just looks broken, like an 
> incomplete stepchild of the real viewer application.
>     
>     Can we please at least make the default to open the application, not the 
> crippled viewer?
> 
> Sven Brauch wrote:
>     I feel like Sebastian does and I have watched people use Ark before which 
> obviously felt the same (i.e. which were confused because the PDF viewer was 
> missing all the buttons). I do see the point of the viewer in some corner 
> cases, but in almost all cases I don't want it.
>     
>     Maybe we could do this: The side panel is currently quite useless (huge 
> amount of space occupied + little information in there). We could embed the 
> viewer there, and change the action on click to select the file and display 
> it there. That would serve the (I guess?) common use case, which is looking 
> through several images and deciding which one you want to extract even better 
> than the current solution. Then there could be a button below the viewer 
> widget to open the file in the actual application.
>     I'm not sure this is a good idea, what do you think?

Ok, I see the problem with that approach -- it requires extracting files on 
selecting them, which is of course not optimal.


- Sven


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On Oct. 8, 2013, 3:23 p.m., Sven Brauch wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 8, 2013, 3:23 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for KDE Base Apps.
> 
> 
> Repository: ark
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> This patch makes ark always use an external viewer application instead of 
> using the clunky internal preview thing. The internal viewer would just embed 
> a plain kpart into a window, but without providing any of the XMLGUI or 
> whatever from that part. Thus, when you for example clicked a PDF, you 
> couldn't print it. The advantages of the internal viewer are imo overall 
> quite questionable, and are far outweighted by its disadvantages.
> 
> Plus, it removes code ;)
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   part/CMakeLists.txt 9e384438b60322f1d51d31e40c556b2912970ceb 
>   part/arkviewer.h bb41472eaec985e2e1b3d9c2f7c257c949316bf4 
>   part/arkviewer.cpp 053cd1c0502d3bb88895dc8d3653eaea9e6c3c83 
>   part/part.cpp b4ebcd27c462d2b8037b5ea40c56969eda71bdcb 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113175/diff/
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> 
> Testing
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> 
> Clicking files opens them in the default application, as it should.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sven Brauch
> 
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