Hello, > Just to clarify, should we just exclude Falkon from bug report > gardening or also from merge request gardening too? > > Merge request gardening is pinging MRs with no activity for 30 days, > then closing if there is no response even two months after the ping > message.
Good idea, I would also exclude Falkon from MR-Bot. Thank you, Juraj. > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 1:18 PM Justin <justin.zo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Juraj, > > > > Of course we are happy to exclude Falkon from the list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Justin > > > > On 28/1/23 23:45, Juraj Oravec wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > >> Exclusions so far: > > >> - okteta > > >> - krita > > >> - any bug reported by sit...@kde.org > > >> > > >> Thanks again for the feedback! > > > > > > Can you also add Falkon to the exclusion list? > > > There are not that many bugs nor people working on it and at the > > > moment it is easy to browse the bugs. > > > > > > Also I do not know if this was discussed, but some info message on > > > the bugzilla would be nice, if this project is managed by this > > > BugBot or not. > > > > > > Thank you for the help. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Juraj. > > > > > > On piatok 27. januára 2023 22:56:09 CET Justin Zobel wrote: > > >> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. > > >> > > >> Given the distribution of positive vs negative feedback, we plan > > >> to > > >> resume automatic bug triage of old non-wishlist bugs that have > > >> not > > >> been updated in over 2 years. If you would like to opt your > > >> product > > >> out of this initiative because you're able to keep on top of the > > >> manual bug triage work, please let us know and we'll be happy to > > >> accommodate you. > > >> > > >> Exclusions so far: > > >> - okteta > > >> - krita > > >> - any bug reported by sit...@kde.org > > >> > > >> Thanks again for the feedback! > > >> > > >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:10 PM Thomas Baumgart > > >> <t...@net-bembel.de> > > > > > > wrote: > > >>> On Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2023 22:39:45 CET Johannes Zarl-Zierl > > > > > > wrote: > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> Am Donnerstag, 19. Jänner 2023, 12:26:08 CET schrieb Nicolas > > > > > > Fella: > > >>>>> Am 19.01.23 um 04:04 schrieb Justin: > > >>>>>> The gardening team aims to find out if the bug reports are > > >>>>>> still > > >>>>>> relevant by involving the users who reported them in > > >>>>>> determining if > > >>>>>> they are still valid. This increases community involvement > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>>> helps > > >>>>>> KDE as there isn't anywhere near enough manpower to review > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>> thousands upon thousands of bugs that haven't been touched in > > >>>>>> years. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Anecdotally many people don't like such automated changes > > >>>>> being > > >>>>> done to their bugreports that don't actually engage with the > > >>>>> content of the report.> > > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, anecdotally you will mostly get feedback from people who > > >>>> don't like it. Unless something is exceptionally great, few > > >>>> people will take the time to speak out in favor of something > > >>>> that > > >>>> is already happening. > > >>>> > > >>>>>> The bugs that we are interacting with are ones that have not > > >>>>>> had any > > >>>>>> activity for over 2 years. We are simply trying to > > >>>>>> reinvigorate > > >>>>>> discussion on those bugs to see if they are still valid. If > > >>>>>> the user > > >>>>>> does not reply within the standard 30 day period after a bug > > >>>>>> is set to NEEDSINFO, it is automatically closed by the Bug > > >>>>>> Janitor. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I am not simply closing bugs, so I do take offense that care > > >>>>>> is not > > >>>>>> applied. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Properly "triaging" old reports requires at least some level > > >>>>> of > > >>>>> understanding of the project, codebase etc. I'm afraid there > > >>>>> is > > >>>>> no > > >>>>> simple solution to that and rule-based approaches aren't good > > >>>>> enough. > > >>>>> Even taking things like CONFIRMED status or wishlist priority > > >>>>> into > > >>>>> account assumes that these have actually been consistently > > >>>>> applied. > > >>>> > > >>>> As a maintainer on a small project, I'm quite happy to get an > > >>>> occasional nudge on old reports. Yes, I do occasionally go over > > >>>> old reports to see if they are still valid, but having somebody > > >>>> else doing this methodically makes sure I don't gloss over some > > >>>> bug that could be closed or fixed. > > >>>> > > >>>> Having this done by someone else without too much internal > > >>>> knowledge is an absolute plus in my opinion. After all, if you > > >>>> want to clean up your attic, you try to find a helper who does > > >>>> not have the same emotional attachment as yourself. > > >>>> > > >>>>>> I will halt it until it is approved by more developers. > > >>>>>> However if it > > >>>>>> is decided that it isn't wanted then the KDE as a whole will > > >>>>>> need to > > >>>>>> entice more people in sorting old bugs individually as it is > > >>>>>> clearly > > >>>>>> not a priority right now for the majority. > > >>>> > > >>>> Speaking for KPhotoAlbum, I really appreciate the bugzilla > > >>>> gardening. Thank you for doing it! > > >>> > > >>> I can second that for the KMyMoney project. An occasional poke > > >>> and > > >>> the automated cleanup when no response arrives where it is > > >>> needed > > >>> helps a lot. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> > > >>> Thomas Baumgart > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> With every day I come closer to the grave and learn something > > >>> new. > > >>> It all happens because I have wandered around too much and > > >>> stumbled > > >>> into the Linux world - which is a fantastic place to be! (Algis > > >>> Kabaila †) > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------
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