Please exclude from the bug report reminder: koko tokodon kalendar kde.org planet.kde.org www.kde.org season.kde.org KDE Mediawiki and any bug reported by myself
as well as the following projects for the MR reminder: koko tokodon kalendar arianna vail arkade basically everything in the websites namespace and any MR created by myself I'm getting already way too many emails and I have an hard time keeping up with them so if I can avoid getting more of them, that would be good. Cheers, Carl ------- Original Message ------- Le vendredi 27 janvier 2023 à 10:56 PM, Justin Zobel <justin.zo...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Thanks for the feedback, everyone. > > Given the distribution of positive vs negative feedback, we plan to > resume automatic bug triage of old non-wishlist bugs that have not > been updated in over 2 years. If you would like to opt your product > out of this initiative because you're able to keep on top of the > manual bug triage work, please let us know and we'll be happy to > accommodate you. > > Exclusions so far: > - okteta > - krita > - any bug reported by sit...@kde.org > > Thanks again for the feedback! > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:10 PM Thomas Baumgart t...@net-bembel.de wrote: > > > On Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2023 22:39:45 CET Johannes Zarl-Zierl wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 19. Jänner 2023, 12:26:08 CET schrieb Nicolas Fella: > > > > > > > Am 19.01.23 um 04:04 schrieb Justin: > > > > > > > > > The gardening team aims to find out if the bug reports are still > > > > > relevant by involving the users who reported them in determining if > > > > > they are still valid. This increases community involvement and helps > > > > > KDE as there isn't anywhere near enough manpower to review the > > > > > thousands upon thousands of bugs that haven't been touched in years. > > > > > > > > Anecdotally many people don't like such automated changes being done to > > > > their bugreports that don't actually engage with the content of the > > > > report. > > > > > > Well, anecdotally you will mostly get feedback from people who don't like > > > it. > > > Unless something is exceptionally great, few people will take the time to > > > speak out in favor of something that is already happening. > > > > > > > > The bugs that we are interacting with are ones that have not had any > > > > > activity for over 2 years. We are simply trying to reinvigorate > > > > > discussion on those bugs to see if they are still valid. If the user > > > > > does not reply within the standard 30 day period after a bug is set to > > > > > NEEDSINFO, it is automatically closed by the Bug Janitor. > > > > > > > > > > I am not simply closing bugs, so I do take offense that care is not > > > > > applied. > > > > > > > > Properly "triaging" old reports requires at least some level of > > > > understanding of the project, codebase etc. I'm afraid there is no > > > > simple solution to that and rule-based approaches aren't good enough. > > > > Even taking things like CONFIRMED status or wishlist priority into > > > > account assumes that these have actually been consistently applied. > > > > > > As a maintainer on a small project, I'm quite happy to get an occasional > > > nudge > > > on old reports. Yes, I do occasionally go over old reports to see if they > > > are > > > still valid, but having somebody else doing this methodically makes sure I > > > don't gloss over some bug that could be closed or fixed. > > > > > > Having this done by someone else without too much internal knowledge is an > > > absolute plus in my opinion. After all, if you want to clean up your > > > attic, > > > you try to find a helper who does not have the same emotional attachment > > > as > > > yourself. > > > > > > > > I will halt it until it is approved by more developers. However if it > > > > > is decided that it isn't wanted then the KDE as a whole will need to > > > > > entice more people in sorting old bugs individually as it is clearly > > > > > not a priority right now for the majority. > > > > > > Speaking for KPhotoAlbum, I really appreciate the bugzilla gardening. > > > Thank > > > you for doing it! > > > > I can second that for the KMyMoney project. An occasional poke and the > > automated cleanup when no response arrives where it is needed helps a lot. > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > Thomas Baumgart > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > With every day I come closer to the grave and learn something new. > > It all happens because I have wandered around too much and stumbled into > > the Linux world - which is a fantastic place to be! (Algis Kabaila †) > > -------------------------------------------------------------