Twas said by " Adriaan de Groot" and my ignorance encourages me to join
the dialogue
> On Tuesday 10 May 2005 18:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Can you please explain why you are not installing from packages? 9
>> times
>> > out
>> > of 10 it's simpler, faster, and less error prone (and the 10th time
>> too).
>>
>> Because my installation is on a system installed on a boat which spends
>> much time at sea- - no permanent internet connection - if it compiles Ok
>> then mods & diffs become easier to apply..and are sometimes essential --
>> and can be obtained by transfering data from a laptop. The data would
>> have
>> been originally acquired over a creaky connection via an internet cafe
>> in
>> some god-forsaken but beautiful place!. True it takes longer to start -
>> but works better (for me) in the long term.
>
> I don't entirely follow this, but I'll defer to your knowledge of
> networking
> in port. But don't count yourself _too_ lucky:
>
> 18469833 kdelibs-3.4.0_1.tbz
> 16861967 kdelibs-3.4.0.tar.bz2
>
> the first is the package, the second the source tarball. The difference in
> size is negligable (in most places). If the sources change for the port,
> then
> that's a new 16M download to get them. The extra 1.6M download buys you
> peace
> of mind and saves a lot of headaches.
>
> Note that in the _dependencies_ of KDE, packages are often _smaller_ than
> the
> sources. Consider X:
>
> 4987767 xorg-server-6.8.2.tbz
> 32373802 xorg/X11R6.8.2-src1.tar.gz
> 10379299 xorg/X11R6.8.2-src3.tar.gz
>
> (again, package, source + s
> ource) so that's a factor of 10 saving.
>
>> I think I may be the only person who develops internet applications
>> whilst
>> at sea. I have 7 computers on board a 60' vessel!! So I carry more
>> source
>> code than I am ever likely to need. However I am not currently familiar
>
> I've never carried more than one (laptop, freebsd, kde 3.4.0), but then
> there's less space for gadgets on a 21' and not much seaworthiness either.
>
>> with compiling gcc and am more familiar with script languages but about
>> to
>> get into EJB - and need a solid server system with X windows on board
>> for
>> my next project.
>
> None of that suggests particularly that you need to build _KDE_ from
> source.
> It's your call though. I'll throw in a mini-README as well (perhaps
> Michael
> has corrections or he'll point out that these are gratuitous repetitions):
>
> 1) These are the instructions. If you have trouble with them, write
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], not one of the other KDE mailing lists.
>
> 2) Heed the instructions given by Michael and Lauri, for they are wise in
> the
> arcane knowledges of .. thingamabobs and ports.
>
> 3) Always quote complete error messages.
>
> 4) In preparation for building KDE from ports, clean up your installed
> ports.
> This means:
>
> pkg_delete kde\* arts\* qt\*
>
> 5) Before step 4, do make a list of the packages you had installed, so you
> know which ones to build next.
>
> 6) Install portupgrade if you haven't already.
>
> pkg_add -r portupgrade
>
> (alternatively, cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade && make && make
> install
> && make clean )
>
> 7) Install kdelibs:
>
> portinstall kdelibs
>
> 8) Install the other KDE ports that you want with portinstall.
>
> 9) Instead of steps 6-8, just pkg_add -r kdelibs and the rest of the KDE
> packages, since it's faster and less error prone.
>
> 10) Step 9 does not apply if you have a non-Tier1 system, e.g. an Alpha.
>
> --
> These are your friends - Adem
> GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot
Thanks -- sounds like good advice which has been filed away under ./kdegems/*
Life is good
David
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40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters.
English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V
Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via
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