//-------------------------------------------- From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL..robah pipikiran...dua sisi -- soal peodalmah sanes dina kaSultanan atuh... peodalmah keuna ku meng kastakeun manusa... padahal di US mah..geus sakuduna.. dina level saTATA..... saRIKSA.... saBANDA.... atw dina ke SETARAan meureun ku malayuna mah... - -----------------------------------------------// Hatur nuhun Kang Roza kana pedarannana, baktos... pun AW
----- Original Message ----- From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL..robah pipikiran...dua sisi aeh kg Rawayan, mang Jamal...kidulur sakabeh... soal peodalmah sanes dina kaSultanan atuh... peodalmah keuna ku meng kastakeun manusa... padahal di US mah..geus sakuduna.. dina level saTATA..... saRIKSA.... saBANDA.... atw dina ke SETARAan meureun ku malayuna mah... mang Jamal.... tos terang ayeuna mah tempatna laut SUNDA nya? heheheheee.... ....oca tea..... --- On Tue, 7/8/08, MRachmat Rawyani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: MRachmat Rawyani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [kisunda] Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL..robah pipikiran...dua sisi To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 5:59 PM Upama nitenan komentar mang Jamal teh, sok aya "dua sisi". Jiga nu ngaheueuhkeun, tapi oge bisa sabalikna. Tapi bisa oge teu aya maksud naon-naon, ngan sakadar guyonna "ala kabayan". Maksad kuring mah kieu, upama ningali tina aspek kabudayaan (anu salawasna hirup), konsep raden-juragan Peodal teh mangrupa hiji proses kabudayaan Sunda kiwari. Teu tiasa dipiceun, pedah eta cenah ceuk sawatara urang dianggap hal negatif. Gumantung kumaha cara ningalina. Peodalisme di Malaysia (siga anu didongengkeun mang Jamal), tos tiasa ngangkat harkat darajat bangsa Melayu, batan suku bangsa sejenna (India, Cina, jsb). Kuring nitenan aya nu "aneh" tumiba ka bangsa urang, saprak pasca reformasi. Mopohokeun sajarah mangsa katukang anu dianggap goreng. Padahal faktana memang aya. Loba nu kaliru dina perkara "memaknai" fakta, pikeun kapentingan "sesaat". baktos, mrachmatrawyani --- On Tue, 7/8/08, mangjamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: mangjamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [kisunda] Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL..robah pipikiran To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 4:45 PM sigana, urang mah moal maju kang. nu maju mah malaysia, nu masih ngingu keneh cara feodalismeu, da buktina, di eta nagara federal teh, masih aya 9 kasultanan tea. cek si kuring feodalismeu malaysia nu geus jadi salah sapuluh faktor nu ngamajukeun malaysia, ninggalkeun sodara tua di kidul nu kalah ka beuki kiruh. kang Oman, di milis Kisunda mah, teraskeun we diskusi soal ieu da asana, milis nu ieu mah daria. nuhun sono oge ka kisunda, jaba aya kang Roza, kantos diulem janten narasumber arsitektur sunda di pss mj --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, MRachmat Rawyani <mrachmatrawyani@ ...> wrote: > > Sigana upama obrolan teu aya anu 'ngabeberes' bakal teu puguh "ngaleorna" jeung "kontra produktif". > > Ningali tina judulna wae "PEODAL" geus boga pipikiran goreng. Ditingali jero-jerona, enya wae geuning loba anu ngomentaran. Jiga keur 'meupeus keuyang' . Katurug-turug aya oknum anu boga gelar raden ngalakukeun korupsi. Naha urang teh rek tetep miara pipikiran siga kieu? Iraha atuh urang rek majuna? > > > baktos, > > mrachmatrawyani > > .
