begin  quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:18:21PM -0700:
> SJS wrote:
> >begin  quoting Doug LaRue as of Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 04:22:23PM -0700:
> >>** Reply to message from Druppy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 4 Jun 2008 
[snip]
> >>>Do I feel like fighting with a desktop machine to do my  
> >>>browsing / email / etc?
> >>I'm thinking you've not really tried Linux in the past few years
> >>or at least not Ubuntu.
> >
> >Embrace teh shiny.
> >
> >[snip]
> >>>On top of that I still have yet to see a really good GUI in Linux.  I  
> >>>think there is a lot to learn from OSX for example.  Everything I see  
> >>>in X still seems... archaic.
> >
> >Meaning, "it works"? :)
> 
> Boy, I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that ...

Heh. I am too. I don't want to owe you a keyboard!

> Yeah, it works--except for interactive performance, video playback 
> response, 3D handling, font rendering, international input, and running 
> reliably on a modern graphics card.
>
> Oh, wait.  Except that that's all modern desktops *do*.

What sort of interactive performance are you worried about with X?

Video playback and 3D handling, I'll grant that X is pretty sucky.

Not sure what you're getting at with fonts or international input.

Keeping up with "modern graphics card" technology seems to be a mug's
game, if you're not doing so with the cooperation of the vendor(s).

What bothers me about X is the security problems, primarily the lack
of a decent trusted path.  But X isn't the only desktop with that
problem.

> Whoops.
> 
> But, you know, making things work isn't fun.  The X programmers would 
> rather work on "T3h Sh1nY".

I gathered that the original comment was about appearances, not
functionality.

Even so... what are the X programmers working on? I was under the
impression that they were working on all (most?) of those things
in your list.

Looking at

http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.1/doc/RELNOTES.html

It looks like they're working on direct hardware access (hello video and
3d), font support, unicode (international input?), and drivers (new
video chipsets?). What more do you want?

-- 
More and more, I'm getting multisync monitors that don't sync with old boxen.
Stewart Stremler


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