begin quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:18:21PM -0700: > SJS wrote: > >begin quoting Doug LaRue as of Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 04:22:23PM -0700: > >>** Reply to message from Druppy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 4 Jun 2008 [snip] > >>>Do I feel like fighting with a desktop machine to do my > >>>browsing / email / etc? > >>I'm thinking you've not really tried Linux in the past few years > >>or at least not Ubuntu. > > > >Embrace teh shiny. > > > >[snip] > >>>On top of that I still have yet to see a really good GUI in Linux. I > >>>think there is a lot to learn from OSX for example. Everything I see > >>>in X still seems... archaic. > > > >Meaning, "it works"? :) > > Boy, I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that ...
Heh. I am too. I don't want to owe you a keyboard! > Yeah, it works--except for interactive performance, video playback > response, 3D handling, font rendering, international input, and running > reliably on a modern graphics card. > > Oh, wait. Except that that's all modern desktops *do*. What sort of interactive performance are you worried about with X? Video playback and 3D handling, I'll grant that X is pretty sucky. Not sure what you're getting at with fonts or international input. Keeping up with "modern graphics card" technology seems to be a mug's game, if you're not doing so with the cooperation of the vendor(s). What bothers me about X is the security problems, primarily the lack of a decent trusted path. But X isn't the only desktop with that problem. > Whoops. > > But, you know, making things work isn't fun. The X programmers would > rather work on "T3h Sh1nY". I gathered that the original comment was about appearances, not functionality. Even so... what are the X programmers working on? I was under the impression that they were working on all (most?) of those things in your list. Looking at http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.1/doc/RELNOTES.html It looks like they're working on direct hardware access (hello video and 3d), font support, unicode (international input?), and drivers (new video chipsets?). What more do you want? -- More and more, I'm getting multisync monitors that don't sync with old boxen. Stewart Stremler -- KPLUG-List@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list