Christoph Maier wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 13:12 -0700, Joshua Penix wrote: >> On Jun 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Wow. Sounds like a nightmare to develop. Then why don't >>> Wine guys freeze old best version that runs Office? Seems that >>> would generate a lot of happiness. >> No, because as others in this thread have already said, Office under >> Wine can easily be replaced by OpenOffice in most cases, and for the >> rest there's always virtualization. >> >> I believe the #1 productivity app that people want under Wine is >> Photoshop. And if you take a look at the Platinum compatibility list >> of Wine... guess what's #1? Outside Photoshop, games are probably the >> next most requested items for Wine... and notice that games round out >> most of the rest of the top 10. >> >> From the above I infer that people want to use Wine for applications >> that don't have comparable equivalents under Linux. It can probably >> be read as a testament to OpenOffice that not too many people are bent >> out of shape about not being able to run bona-fide Office under Wine. >> >>> You are assuming I run Office. I never said I did. >> >> Then why the hell are we having this thread? >> >> -- >> Joshua Penix http://www.binarytribe.com >> Binary Tribe Linux Integration Services & Network Consulting >> >> > > At the moment, LTSpice is my #1 productivity application under Wine. > I haven't tried to get the free versions of FPGA development tools to > run under Wine yet. > > By the way, how does GIMP compare to Photoshop? In my not too competent > opinion, quite favorably ... >
Well, I've been learning more about gimp in recent months, and a lot of what I run into of a tutorial nature comes from the photoshop community. Here's my evaluation. If you earn your living as a graphic artist (or creative artist or high-end photographer or photofinisher or ??), you probably want the Adobe "Creative Suite" tool set (CS3, I gather, is the latest) It includes (depending, I think. on standard, premium, ...) photoshop and a couple of tools for managing image "collections" (if that's the right term) and apparently other things that are somewhat frequently considered useful workflow tools by full-time serious users. Program names I remember are lightbox, "something-raw", oh well, surely there's more. Oh, I guess the suite includes illustrator and pdf-tools as well as flash-tools, and a 30 gal garbage compactor (just joking on that last one [I think]). I have no problem saying that a "professional" would probably be best off buying the tools most highly rated by his peers. And the highest price versions are still only maybe a week's salary. Just considering photoshop, I have indeed seen features missing from gimp that would unquestionably be useful to a moderately experienced gimp user -- things like selection "refinement", layer style, and object selection, and some tool workings that help discriminate highlights and shadows when doing various photo enhancing operations. Also photoshop does have some (perhaps limited but better than nothing) support for 16-bit color channels. Oh yeah, they do a better job of integrating HSV (and LAB, etc) for those special cases where in gimp you need to decompose, edit, and then recompose. I'm sure I haven't yet seen features that skilled photoshopper consider valuable. Nevertheless, I would say that the overwhelming majority of the features /I/ want are adequate in gimp. I think it provides a lot of photo-editing power. But that's me. In all fairness, I have heard someone say that gimp isn't even up to PaintShopPro (an inexpensive Windows prog -- used to be <= $100, and you could even get a trial/nag version free). For me, I still think gimp is grreat! Others may have specific needs --maybe even simple ones-- that gimp misses the boat on. YMMV And a good part of the things I wish for will probably come "next year" (or so). I would guestimate gimp is probably 5-years behind photoshop in the higher-end features. Gimp is most certainly a serious photo-editing tool. Whether it meets "professional" needs is arguable. I think it's a very nice and fun tool. BTW there is a new version 1.6 coming out "real soon now" (my guess: a couple more months). They say it is mostly preparatory for the real-nice user-impressive features promised to come [more quickly?] in 2.8 -- but I do believe there will be significant improvements in 2.6. They are doing serious UI analysis using real UI experts; they are eliminating a bunch of annoyances; and they are making things more consistent. I haven't run a beta (2.5) but have seen demos that satisfy me as impressive. We shall see. Aside to CM: I've even gotten a little better at photogimping; see http://www.kernel-panic.org/wiki/VirtualReality Regards, ..jim (I'd rather keep the $650-2500) -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
