Thanks Colin for that advice - yes I have been looking at the web sites - 
all very interesting.  As I live in Australia - also known as God's Great 
Garden - I might just have to pass on the gathering, but thanks for the 
offer - the old C172 won't go that far.

I just wish all you guys would give your measurements in real terms, ie 
millimeters, kg, Newtons, etc, instead of these ancient english imperial 
things.  Pity you didn' t throw the imperial system overboard with the tea 
in Boston, all those years ago!  Makes my head ache, having to do the 
conversions.  (Please note - last para is my attempt at humour :-))

At 09:39 AM 7/09/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Fraser,
>You said:
>Hi - I am new to this net, so bear with me please!  I am looking for a
>suitable plane to build, and the KR2 of KR2S seems to fit the bill for me
>so far.  Do the current plans available have these later refinements and
>improvements that you mentioned,?  If not, is there a source of these, or
>is it simply that these refinements etc are what individuals have done to
>their planes while building them?
>To answer your question, please do not think that I am the authority here, 
>as there are some long time builders that have way more knowledge of this 
>aircraft than I. I guess I just tend to be alittle more vocal! HaHa.
>The KR2 is a wonderful airplane, but a new builder should not consider the 
>older KR2 without including the "S" supplement. If you will "cruise" over 
>to the KRnet construction site and search through the archives, you will 
>find a HUGE amount of information on modifications and improvements that 
>builders have made to this little plane.  Also, lots of builders' sites 
>have great ideas and improvements that they have made to overcome 
>different building challenges that they have experienced.  The KR2S plans 
>are reported to be the clearest and easiest to use, as well as the 
>supplement including the refinements of re-enforced firewall for larger 
>powerplants, and longer fuselage.  Mark Langford's site talks about 
>several good refinements and hiper links you to other sources of 
>additional studies and mods.  The original KR2 had a neat idea for 
>retracts, but over the years, virtually every builder with them has done 
>away with them in favor of a less drag inducing well faired fixed gear, or 
>some other version of retract (Loehle Replicas has a good system that 
>swing inboard, but requires alot of work to fit onto a KR2).  Also you 
>cannot forget to put the gear down on fixed gear!  I had a student 
>recently, over 300 hour pilot take me down an instrument approach in a 
>twin engine aircraft and forget the landing gear, all the way down to 400 
>AGL when I took over and lowered the gear. If he had been solo that would 
>have been an expensive mistake.
>What I recommend is for you to take several afternoons and read through 
>the different builder websites and finished aircraft, and learn all you 
>can from the ones out there building, or flying.  They know what is 
>working for them, and will save you literally hundreds of hours trying to 
>solve problems. Then when you have questions, and you can't find the 
>answer in the archives, ask it here.  Go to the Gathering this year and 
>look at the KR2, and KR2S up close and compare.  I am told the materials 
>cost is virtually the same, and you will be much happier with the plane 
>when it is complete.  Any other builders' thoughts please don't hesitate 
>to chime in here.... :)
>
>
>Colin Rainey KR2(td)
>crain...@cfl.rr.com
>Sanford, Florida
>FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________
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