Ron & others:

I purchased my first set of plans in '76 or '77 from Ken Rand personally when I 
lived in Irvine CA.  I later exchanged these plans in to pick up revisions in 
'80 or '81withe him personally for a  fee.  Subsequently I lost my reciept and 
since my plans were purchased before numbers were recorded I felt I might have 
the problem with documentation as is being discussed here. I contacted Ms. Rand 
to try and resolve the matter and she retuned my call and we
discussed the problem thoroughly and she said she would get back to me and she 
never did.

I do not know what the problem is other than perhaps Ken to begin with was 
keeping pretty loose records and so after his death the records were messed up. 
 I know I had a reciept and it must have been lost through one of my multiple 
moves so what is one to do in such a case.  I realize that this could look like 
a fraud on its surface but it is not.

This is somewhat of a mute issue as I took over a project that has a plans 
number so I feel that I am legal however I have attemted to contact Ms. Rand to 
notify her of my aquisition of the project complete with the plans and she has 
yet to respond.  that was done in March or early April of this year.  Again 
what is one to do. I have two legitimate sets of plansthe way I see it but I 
also think an argument can be made that I do not.

Don Lively
Burlington IA 52601
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Red ya sure wrote:

> I am not an expert on copyrights, but there are several in my name, so I do 
> have a bit of knowledge...once you buy the blueprints, they are yours!  If 
> you choose to give them away, cut them up, or share them, thats OK.   It is 
> probably implied, that the blueprints include a license to build one (1) 
> plane.      but      AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT PROFIT FROM THEIR EFFORTS...IT'S 
> PROBABLY LEGAL....Sorry, but morals and ethics are not taken into  
> consideration.
> RED
>
> Ron Freiberger <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> wrote: What part of "Thou shalt 
> not steal" seems mysterious to you?
>
> Ron Freiberger
>
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> Subject: KR> Plans
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> Thanks to all who replied to my first post. I have several dumb
> questions to ask about plans. I have 2 sets, 1 from 1975 with a serial #
> and 1 from 1984 with no number. It has been advised that I contact
> Jeanette Rand and have my name transferred to the numbered plans. Do you
> have to have a set of plans registered to you in order to build a legal,
> registered airplane? What prevents a person from copying a set of plans
> and using them for construction? Ethics perhaps? Would a new set of
> plans have noticeable improvements over the ones I have and would it be
> advantageous to order said plans? Please answer on or off net to my
> e-mail address. Still looking for a fixed main gear to replace the
> retracts. Thanks, Ken
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