I thought approach and departure stalls are part of the PTS that every pilot 
should be able to perform for their PPL and are typically asked to demonstrate 
during their BFRs.  Now, that doesn't mean it should be performed in every 
aircraft, as I'll discuss below.  The point that I apparently failed to make is 
that my KR wasn't any more difficult to fly to those standards than most 
trainers I have flown.  That does not mean that every KR flies the same as mine 
or that everyone should do what I do.  With some inattention to the rudder, I 
would expect the KR to get out of control much faster than your typical 
trainer.  With the small tails often times found on KRs, that could make for a 
pretty wild ride.  With the huge variations in the way KRs are built, and the 
many different control sizes, configurations and airfoils,  I wouldn't use the 
performance of one as a predictor for any other. An example of a plane you 
don't stall:  If you choose to do an approach stall in a Lancair 4 you do so 
with the gear down to prevent overspeeding the airframe during recovery.  You 
can expect it to roll onto it's back as one wing will wash out quite abruptly 
and violently.  It typically takes about 2000 feet to recover.  You simply do 
not do departure stalls in that aircraft.  Most Lancair 4 pilots will do one 
approach stall in their aircraft during training, which teaches them to 
completely avoid that part of the flight regime. -Jeff ScottLos Alamos, 
NMN1213W    Jeff,

I agree with you about stalling the KR.  The chances of the average pilot 
making a mistake I a full power stall and turning it into either an inverted 
departure or spin is great enough to caution most KR pilots to not go out and 
try this maneuver.  

Ken Rand dropped 8000 feet after on by one report, and Mark Langford dumped his 
plane upside down doing the same.  It is not the stall that is going to be the 
issue, it is the incipient spin phase of flight that if going to get someone 
killed.

In my opinion there is zero good reason for the average KR pilot to be doing a 
full power stall in the KR.  The attendant risk of departed flight is not 
something the average pilot (whether right or wrong) is ready for.  Even as 
someone who has a lot of hours in planes doing high alpha flight I have zero 
reason to do this type flying in my own KR.

If you enjoy flying in this envelope, by all means go for it!  That is part of 
the fun of flying, to do things the way you want to.  I would not advise others 
to do this is all I am saying, as the KR is unforgiving of mistakes one might 
make in this regime.

IHS,

David Goodman



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