Are you selling the revflo?

Bob white


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On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Lee Parker <le62...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have a Revflo 34 if interested.
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Eduardo Barros <edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar>
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> 
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: KR> Fuel Injector
> 
> People
> 
> I will like install a carb with control mixture in my engine, what is your 
> opinion of  the  ELLISON and AEROIJECTOR?
> Saludos
> 
> Eduardo Barros
> San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina
> 
> Mail: edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar 
> Visite el proyecto de construcción del avión experimental "Kr2 EGB": 
> http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mark Langford 
>   To: KRnet 
>   Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:53 AM
>   Subject: Re: KR> Structural Analysis
> 
> 
>   Larry Flesner wrote:
> 
>   >>Using the performance numbers directly from the Rand sales literature 
>   >>indicates to me that very little research was done to verify actual 
>   >>performance of the KR before they were used to make his assumptions or 
>   >>calculations. That's were I lost total faith in his conclusions.  I'm 
> even 
>   >>wondering about the qualifications of the three professors signing the 
>   >>cover page.  But hey, that's just me.  Your conclusions may vary. :-)  <<
> 
> 
>   Regarding the paper at 
>   http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf,  I agree with 
>   everything Larry says.  But I managed to read the whole thing (except for 
>   the half of the paper that was standard derivations), and I also found a 
> lot 
>   of it very "interesting".  One thing that really sticks in my mind is the 
> 35 
>   pounds of stick force is required during takeoff, according to the control 
>   analysis.  I'll bet just about all KRs would perform an instant half-loop 
> to 
>   stall and crash if you really did that.  When Troy Petteway was coaching me 
>   to fly my plane for the first time, he said "set the trim to neutral and 
>   when it's ready to fly it'll take off all by itself".  My plane is that way 
>   as well.  35 pounds of stick force isn't anywhere near reality, and could 
>   get somebody killed in a hurry.
> 
>   And I found the following piece of advice to be truly amazing...the only 
>   advice given regarding CG of the aircraft:  "The recommended CG range for 
>   the original KR2 is 15 to 35% of MAC.  Acknowledging the pitch sensitivity 
>   issue of this airplane, the CG position needs to be chosen very carefully. 
>   Therefore the most forward CG position should be avoided."  No mention of 
>   aft CG at all.  This is completely backwards from reality as well...forward 
>   CG is very stable, aft CG is UNstable, and not just for the KR!
> 
>   Regarding airfoil selection, selecting a "cruise speed" of 180 mph at 
>   15,000' while powered by an 85 hp engine for comparison purposes is wishful 
>   thinking.  I suspect (at least hope) this guy knows something about 
>   aerodynamics, but his choice of beginning with "published numbers" for KR 
>   performance was just his first mistake.  I sincerely doubt that he knows 
>   more about airfoil design  than Dr. Ashok Gopolaranthnam , who specializes 
>   in airfoil design and designed the AS504x series specifically for the KR2S, 
>   and is now an aerodynamics professor ( see 
>   http://www.mae.ncsu.edu/faculty-staff/profile/ashok-gopalarathnam/) at NCU. 
>   Do a Google search for  Ashok Gopalarathnam and you'll get 4200 
>   aerodynamically leaning hits.  With a name like that, they're probably all 
>   his.  Do a Google search for Boris Bravo and you'll get ONE hit that is 
>   probably  be him.  My money's on Ashok when it comes to airfoil design and 
>   comparison.
> 
>   I notice one of the references listed is "Verification of Airworthiness of 
> a 
>   Modified KR-2 Aircraft" by his "project partner".  It's at 
>   http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/projectsMSAE.htm , along with the current 
>   subject report.  These two reports are very similar and contain some of the 
>   same mistakes and factual errors.  If I were Nordin, I'd feel violated!  I 
>   have to wonder why the Bravo analysis is "secure" and can't be printed, 
>   unlike the other reports listed on that page.  The document security is 
> also 
>   set to make it "invisible" to search engines, and therefore less likely to 
>   be found by those interested in such things.  I wonder why.  And given 
>   Larry's comment about not doing much research was done to verify actual KR 
>   performance, he's had five years to do a little research on that, and has 
>   obviously been to both www.krnet.org and www.n56ml.com but didn't learn 
> much 
>   .
> 
>   I could go on, but why bother?  This "analysis" is a complete "red herring" 
>   from the KR pilot's and builder's standpoint.  I should have been doing 
>   something constructive tonight rather than wasting my time on this...
> 
>   Mark Langford
>   ML at N56ML.com
>   website at http://www.n56ml.com/
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