On 2/18/09, Bernd Fondermann <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul Querna wrote:
>> I want to get Orthrus to a state where it can easily be used by Linux
>> and other OS vendors.  It needs releases for that to happen though.
>>
>> I would like it to stay at the ASF if possible, but even if Orthrus went
>> to the incubator, I'm not sure it would attract more than a handful of
>> committers -- and once the core features are done, I don't think there
>> would be any major code development.
>>
>> The scope of what Orthrus is currentlyimplementing is a small standard
>> that has been stable for 10+ years.
>>
>> The reason I started it at all is to replace OPIE, which does't even
>> compile on OSX, and to make a PAM module that works on Solaris, so that
>> the ASF infrastructure could use it.
>>
>> Maybe Google Code is the right place to take it, since it seems to build
>> an ASF style community, it would need to be a project with a much larger
>> scope?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> I'm a bit lost on this, too. For Java projects, there is Commons as a
> last resort. For other languages, there is nothing like it. Our
> community and oversight model doesn't really seem to fit for very small
> projects in terms of code and community.

Commons is targeted at micro-libraries so micro java CLI apps are also OOS

> It's a discussion which already was touched when Droids went into
> incubation. A small project. Can it survive the Incubator?

The problem (as I see it) is not incubation but graduation

Droids is of interest to the Lucene nexus so perhaps that might be an
exit option but I agree about this point in general

> Here at ASF, projects are expected to grow to and beyond a certain
> critical mass. But where is the place for all those little gems?

http://gems.apache.org ;-)

To be language agnostic but run on the collective responsibility model
used by the commons, the apps would need to be tiny. I find that size
makes a big difference when it comes to comprehension especially in
languages where I only have a smattering, and I think many developers
would agree with me.

Robert
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>    Bernd
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