The fine threads used for 18th & 19th century bobbin lace is rope compared to 
the finest knitting yarns.  Around 80 wraps/cm = 200 wraps/inch, maybe even 
finer.  The finest knitting yarn such as singles from Jamison & Smith is about 
15 wraps/cm = 38 wraps/inch.

Brenda


On 9 Feb 2011, at 14:53, Nathalie wrote:

> Ah, I am sorry. I didn't take that into account. With lace knitting
> there are different thicknesses (sp?) but not as much as with lace. I
> am not that familiar with the threads in lace. I more or less evolved
> from "rope" - I kid, worsted yarn - to fingering and then lace yarn.
> 
> Would anyone know how fine the thread for 19th century Point de Rose
> or Point de Gaz is?
> 
> 
> 
> Nathalie - who one day hope to knit a shawl in cobweb thread, but
> fears that won't ever happen.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Brenda Paternoster
> <paternos...@appleshack.com> wrote:
>> Without a very very close magnified photograph of the lace *and* a scale 
>> with it there is no way that anyone could tell you the thickness of the 
>> thread used to make a piece of lace from just a picture.  There isn't even 
>> an indication as to how wide that lace edging is.  Even with the actual lace 
>> in your hand it would be very difficult to determine.
>> 
>> The photo isn't detailed enough to say whether it's a point ground or a 
>> Flemish pattern though I think it probably is a bobbin lace rather than a 
>> needle lace.  Dating lace isn't my strong point, but I'd guess that it's 
>> late 18th or early 19th century which means that the thread used was very 
>> fine - comparable to, or finer than, the finest cotton thread available 
>> today (Brok 180/2 or Bart & Francis unbleached 240/2) if you can get it.  
>> The very fine linens are no longer available.
>> 
>> Brenda
> 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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