James Cornell wrote:
> Partly wrong there. It's how Solaris handles modification of the disk
> partitions. This has been fixed in ON 70. I use Vista x64 and
> OpenSolaris with ON 75 without issue. It's completely transparent.
> Regular Solaris however doesn't like bootmgr. The hacks are to make
> duplicates of the current mbrs of each system, use bootmgr to boot
> Solaris. I don't see any misalignment, if there is it's due to the
> ability to shrink/grow NTFS without 3rd party programs in Vista.
I am glad you were lucky and found a working situation.
I am indeed aware of the ON build 70 putback, and that is not the
complete story on Vista.
Here is what we find in our lab (up to and including SNV build 75);
- Multiple brands/models of new vista laptop fail to shrink Vista with
the built-in utility.
- Many of these models have the entire disk filled with 3 partitions, a
diagnostic, vista itself, and
a recovery partition. MS have supplied tools to the manufacturers,
based on our talks with them,
that align all these partitions to start and end on the same cylinder
and head, but differ by 1 sector.
- Since many (not all) of these have failed to shrink NTFS using the
Vista built-in, we are forced to
try 3rd party commercial and open source software.
- All 3rd-party software tried, including partition magic, paragon
partition mgr, Acronis, etc,
immediately complain of overlapping partitions and exit to avoid data
loss (liability).
- At this time, the only work-around I have discovered for this specific
type of situation is to:
0. Make your recovery media, because you are about to delete the
recovery partition.
1 Use Ranish partition mgr to edit partition table, and zero out
the diagnostic and recovery
parititions. This leaves one partition, Vista, arguably
misaligned still (as far as the rest of the
industry is concered, but not M$).
2. Use Paragon Partition Mgr, it starts, complains about
misalignment, and then since
the other overlapping partitions are no longer there, it comes
up and works.
3. Use Paragon to MOVE and SHRINK the NTFS partition for Vista. It
now comes
out smaller *AND* aligned on cylinder boundaries.
4. Optional, run the recovery media to fix the boot
files/signature, since sometimes when you
shrink/move vista, it no longer boots.
At this point, since there is
a. free space
and
b. a NTFS partition aligned on cylinder boundaries
then all 3rd party partition and fdisk software now agrees to
start and add partitions for Solaris and Linux, if needed.
At this point, I've installed Solaris mbr and used Solaris grub to
boot vista, or Solaris, or Linux. And with no secondary vista boot menu.
FYI,
Neal Pollack
>
> Core Duo is not 64-bit, Core 2 Duo is 64-bit. I have a 3rd rev
> MacBook Pro with Santa Rosa Core 2, and it runs other operating
> systems in either 32-bit or 64-bit mode, of course dependent on
> drivers, which are all available, since it uses a NVIDIA Geforce 8600
> GT, and Intel 865 chipset. (These are like others 1440x900, but they
> use LED backlighting instead of mercury cathodes, brighter, less
> failures) You're hard pressed to find any notebook with 1680x1050
> which is not 17".
>
> I believe the ASUS C90 would be a better fit, and it's Core 2 also.
> AMD Turion's have less power management features, and their mobile
> line is gimped compared to their desktop/server processors. I have an
> Ultra-20 M2 with Opteron 1218, and it's nice, but I've had bad
> experience with AMD notebooks over the years and refuse to buy them
> because they generally omit more heat, are slower, and not cheaper
> than Intel ones. AMD since the get-go of 64-bit computing hasn't
> focused on mobiles, this is why Apple didn't even consider them (Plus
> they can't handle the demand), they basically try fitting a square
> object in a round hole to retrofit AMD's in notebooks. Intel has a
> much large company and more money to make it work right.
>
> James
> On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Neal Pollack wrote:
>
>> Mike DeMarco wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> One more Question: Are the core Duo's Full 64bit and able to run
>>> dual boot Solaris and Windows XP pro?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. On multiple brand of Core2Duo laptops, we are dual and tripple
>> booting
>> Solaris, Vista, Win XP, Linux.
>>
>> (Vista has it's own specially engineered annoyances as a futile attempt
>> to keep people from adding extra OS types to the hardware. But alas,
>> M$ failed at that also. It's a little extra work, but you can
>> "adjust" the
>> vista partition to play nice with Solaris and Linux. There are blogs
>> about it, or others on this list will share how M$ tried to mis-align
>> vista partitions so that every third party partition program on the
>> market
>> would fail, complaining about overlapping partitions. But again, that
>> can be dealt with.)
>>
>> Neal
>>
>>> Thanks for everyones input
>>> <mike>
>>>
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