[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:


Hi Joan,

I guess we should be encouraged by the progress that HAS been made over
the past twenty to thirty years.  I think as long as everyone continues
to fight for the elimination of racial prejudice and discrimination that
progress will continue.  But I doubt if we will ever see the end of it
completely.  Perhaps future generations will.

Bill


On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:21:52 -0400 "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>Hello Bill,
>
>Despite the fact that old habits die slowly, as they say :), 
>professional
>behavior must prevail.  I don't recall hearing of the racist comments 
>made
>on the police radio, but there is no room for such comments over the 
>radio
>or anywhere in the workplace.  Can't control people in their homes or 
>other
>private areas.  I guess education and being raised without hatred is 
>part
>of the answer, but so much racism within all races still exists, I 
>don't
>see a lot of hope in the near future.  However, it can be controlled 
>on the
>job.
>
>                                       Joan  
>
>----------
>> From: William J. Foristal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: L&I Back Home
>> Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 12:08 PM
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> HI Joan,
>> 
>> I agree with you completely!  There was also some disturbing 
>evidence
>> that showed some racist comments over the police radio.  This is the 
>kind
>> of foolish behavior that must be eliminated also.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:57:44 -0400 "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>writes:
>> >"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello Kathy,
>> >
>> >I recall your post about LAPD training.  Hopefully it has improved 
>> >with
>> >time and with the exposure that police force has received.  I 
>believe 
>> >when
>> >it is necessary to subdue a prisoner attempting to avoid capture or 
>to
>> >escape or to prevent that individual from harming someone, then 
>force 
>> >must
>> >be used.  I believe King needed to be subdued as he did not succumb 
>to
>> >capture willingly.  The line appears to be at what point King was 
>> >under
>> >control and how much physical force was still used when it was 
>> >unnecessary.
>> > I believe there was abuse and that was wrong.  On the other hand, 
>I 
>> >do not
>> >excuse King for the part he played.  Had he not behaved as he did, 
>a 
>> >high
>> >speed chase would have been avoided and had he not resisted arrest 
>and
>> >attacked the officers, no force would have been necessary.  
>However, I
>> >certainly distinguish between necessary force and abuse.  Abuse is 
>not
>> >acceptable on the part of the criminal or the police.  I understand 
>
>> >your
>> >point.  :)
>> >
>> >                                    Joan
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >> From: Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Subject: Re: L&I Back Home
>> >> Date: Sunday, April 26, 1998 1:16 PM
>> >> 
>> >> Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Hi Joan :)
>> >> 
>> >> I disagree with you :) If you remember a couple of years ago I 
>> >stated
>> >> that the problem was in the training of the LAPD according to 
>their
>> >> training they were following the procedures used at the time. 
>OTOH 
>> >that
>> >> does not lift the responsibility off of the officers and what 
>they 
>> >did,
>> >> nor does it lift the responsibility off of RK and what he did.
>> >> 
>> >> Joan Moyer wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Hello Vi,
>> >> > 
>> >> > Glad the surgery was successful.  I had a house on the market 
>once 
>> >for
>> >a
>> >> > year and it was a real worry since I had bought another.  Glad 
>to 
>> >read
>> >your
>> >> > posts.  We are probably the only 2 who believe King had to be 
>> >subdued
>> >and
>> >> > the officers were not totally at fault.
>> >> > 
>> >> >                                         Joan
>> >> > 
>> >> --
>> >> Kathy E
>> >> "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and 
>> >tomorrow
>> >> isn't looking too good for you either"
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