"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Hello Bill,

Maybe so.  It would certainly be a more comfortable place to live.  :)

                        Joan

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> From: William J. Foristal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L&I Back Home
> Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 5:07 PM
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> 
> 
> Hi Joan,
> 
> I guess we should be encouraged by the progress that HAS been made over
> the past twenty to thirty years.  I think as long as everyone continues
> to fight for the elimination of racial prejudice and discrimination that
> progress will continue.  But I doubt if we will ever see the end of it
> completely.  Perhaps future generations will.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:21:52 -0400 "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >Hello Bill,
> >
> >Despite the fact that old habits die slowly, as they say :), 
> >professional
> >behavior must prevail.  I don't recall hearing of the racist comments 
> >made
> >on the police radio, but there is no room for such comments over the 
> >radio
> >or anywhere in the workplace.  Can't control people in their homes or 
> >other
> >private areas.  I guess education and being raised without hatred is 
> >part
> >of the answer, but so much racism within all races still exists, I 
> >don't
> >see a lot of hope in the near future.  However, it can be controlled 
> >on the
> >job.
> >
> >                                     Joan  
> >
> >----------
> >> From: William J. Foristal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: L&I Back Home
> >> Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 12:08 PM
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> HI Joan,
> >> 
> >> I agree with you completely!  There was also some disturbing 
> >evidence
> >> that showed some racist comments over the police radio.  This is the 
> >kind
> >> of foolish behavior that must be eliminated also.
> >> 
> >> Bill
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:57:44 -0400 "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >writes:
> >> >"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hello Kathy,
> >> >
> >> >I recall your post about LAPD training.  Hopefully it has improved 
> >> >with
> >> >time and with the exposure that police force has received.  I 
> >believe 
> >> >when
> >> >it is necessary to subdue a prisoner attempting to avoid capture or 
> >to
> >> >escape or to prevent that individual from harming someone, then 
> >force 
> >> >must
> >> >be used.  I believe King needed to be subdued as he did not succumb 
> >to
> >> >capture willingly.  The line appears to be at what point King was 
> >> >under
> >> >control and how much physical force was still used when it was 
> >> >unnecessary.
> >> > I believe there was abuse and that was wrong.  On the other hand, 
> >I 
> >> >do not
> >> >excuse King for the part he played.  Had he not behaved as he did, 
> >a 
> >> >high
> >> >speed chase would have been avoided and had he not resisted arrest 
> >and
> >> >attacked the officers, no force would have been necessary.  
> >However, I
> >> >certainly distinguish between necessary force and abuse.  Abuse is 
> >not
> >> >acceptable on the part of the criminal or the police.  I understand 
> >
> >> >your
> >> >point.  :)
> >> >
> >> >                                  Joan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >----------
> >> >> From: Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Subject: Re: L&I Back Home
> >> >> Date: Sunday, April 26, 1998 1:16 PM
> >> >> 
> >> >> Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hi Joan :)
> >> >> 
> >> >> I disagree with you :) If you remember a couple of years ago I 
> >> >stated
> >> >> that the problem was in the training of the LAPD according to 
> >their
> >> >> training they were following the procedures used at the time. 
> >OTOH 
> >> >that
> >> >> does not lift the responsibility off of the officers and what 
> >they 
> >> >did,
> >> >> nor does it lift the responsibility off of RK and what he did.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Joan Moyer wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > "Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Hello Vi,
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Glad the surgery was successful.  I had a house on the market 
> >once 
> >> >for
> >> >a
> >> >> > year and it was a real worry since I had bought another.  Glad 
> >to 
> >> >read
> >> >your
> >> >> > posts.  We are probably the only 2 who believe King had to be 
> >> >subdued
> >> >and
> >> >> > the officers were not totally at fault.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >                                         Joan
> >> >> > 
> >> >> --
> >> >> Kathy E
> >> >> "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and 
> >> >tomorrow
> >> >> isn't looking too good for you either"
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