Assuming you are using Rogers (canada) you should have a theoretical 
downstream pipe of 300K /s (but you'll probably get more like 120K/s - 
230K/s) 80K/s is the max threshold I use - and I've never even come near it 
- but you can change it accordingly...

S


>From: "MLU " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Unused IP's with LaBrea
>Date: Mon,  4 Mar 2002 10:34:58 -0800
>
>Thank you guys for the feedbacks. LaBrea works the way you all described. 
>Normal port-scan will be done quickly, but a more meaningfull scaning (as 
>browser IE or lynx on http://24.x.x.x:27 will run and wait forever. The log 
>shows that LaBrea is tarpiting too. So I think it is time for me now to 
>install LaBrea officially (saving config, creating the script etc).
>
>Still I have a couple of questions/concerns:
>
>1- Why the number 80000 in -p 80000. From the man page, LaBrea will ensure 
>that the router would use the max bandwidth up to 80K/sec, but is that 
>still too much? Why not 20K or 10K per second? Or maybe because as Simon 
>explained, LaBrea only talks back the 1st time, "I am open", and then does 
>not send anything else.
>
>2- The scanner will send data to the router forever, does that then have 
>any bad impact on the bandwidth of the router. Is the man-page (-p ... 
>First of all, this forces data throttling to 5 bytes (see the "-t" option 
>above) referring to this issue?
>
>P.S. Here is the output from running nmap against port 27
>
>[root@rogers mlu]# nmap -p 27 -O 24.x.x.x
>
>Starting nmap V. 2.53 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
>Interesting ports on 24.x.x.x):
>Port       State       Service
>27/tcp     open        nsw-fe
>
>TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random
>                          Difficulty=9999999 (Good luck!)
>No OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see 
>http://www.insecure.org/cgi-bin/nmap-submit.cgi).
>TCP/IP fingerprint:
>TSeq(Class=TR)
>T1(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=5%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=)
>T2(Resp=N)
>T3(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=5%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=)
>T4(Resp=N)
>T5(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=S++%Flags=AR%Ops=)
>T6(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=O%Flags=R%Ops=)
>T7(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=S%Flags=AR%Ops=)
>PU(Resp=N)
>PU(Resp=Y%DF=N%TOS=C0%IPLEN=164%RIPTL=148%RID=E%RIPCK=E%UCK=F%ULEN=134%DAT=E)
>
>Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 15 seconds
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Message: 9
>From: "Charles Steinkuehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Steve Jeppesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         "leaf-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Unused IP's with LaBrea
>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:08:58 -0600
>
> > On the "how do you test", I know mine is working because of all the
> > "Teergrubing" messages I receive in syslog.  It is running on all low
> > ports <1024 so it catches alot of activity.  I have not done it myself,
> > but maybe a different port scanning service could provide better results
> > for you.
> >
> > GRC is using some new form of scanning your ports, and it is supposed to
> > be very quick.  And because LaBrea is running, it should show your ports
> > open when you run a scan from GRC...or at least thats what happen to me
> > going to that scanning site.  Anybody else please jump in on this one ..
> > should our ports be showing open just because we are using LaBrea?  That
> > never happened to me before using LaBrea (using the scanner at GRC) - 
>they
> > all showed "stealth" status before.
>
>Yes, a remote system will see your low ports as "open", but trying to
>communicate with these ports in any meaningful way will cause the remote
>system to get "stuck", tying up it's reasources (ie it's "tar-pitted").
>
>The most fun way to test this is using a MS platform...bring up IE and 
>point
>it at your firewall, on a port that LaBrea will respond to (ie
>http://<your-IP>:27/).  IE will happily open the page, and sit *FOREVER*
>with the little world spinning, never giving up...
>
>Charles Steinkuehler
>http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
>http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
>
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