This is a new one to me. I hope someone else will turn out to be familiar 
with it and post a simple solution, but I wouldn't count on it. (I waited 
awhile before replying, in this hope.)

I am reasonably sure that IP-NAT is just a slightly more exact synonym for 
NAT. At least every reference I could find used it that way. I assume you 
know what the ordinary meaning of NAT is.

I can't find any reference to the use of port 864 in connection with NAT or 
IP-NAT (or ftp). Just "opening" it is unlikely to help you much; something 
on your router or LAN will need either to send from that port or listen on 
it -- or maybe accept input *from* it; the advice you report getting is so 
sketchy that it is hard to guess. The admin's advice doesn't include 
telling you what his site uses the port for, and I can't find any 
indication that the use is anything established by any standard ... or at 
least nothing connected to NAT or ftp.

(The only references to port 864 that I was able to track down are in RFC 
768, where 864-UDP is associated with a service called "Discard", and with 
connection to ypserv, which also runs on 864-UDP. You may need to find out 
what the site expects to receive or send from or to that port.)

So ... if someone else jumps in here with an easy answer, that's terrific. 
If no one does ... then you may be the first one to run into a new problem 
that we (and Linux-NAT users generally) need to work out a solution for. In 
that case, the more information you can provide, the better.

The other possibility is that this use of port 864 is some oddity specific 
to the particular ftp site. I've seen a few other cases recently where 
admins of ftp sites did something short-sighted that caused problems for 
connections from firewalled sites, and in such cases, there is really no 
sensible fix other than letting the admin know that it is his problem to 
fix, not yours.

I'm sorry this reply isn't more helpful, and I do hope that someone else 
who recognizes the problem from your description will respond with more 
information.

At 01:23 PM 9/21/02 +0200, Joris Kempen wrote:
>Hi people,
>
>I talked with the admin of the ftp site.
>
>and he told me that port 864 is needed for IP NAT.
>
>Can I just open port 864?
>
>I have DachStein & Echowall, how do I open this port 864.
>
>Any links maybe that tell me (in easy language:) what IP-NAT exactly is..
>
>Thanks..
>
>Met vriendelijke groet,
>
>Joris Kempen
>St. Ursulahof 47
>5995 CB Kessel
>
>email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>tel. nr.:  06 1257 4228
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joris Kempen
> >Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 10:14 AM
> >To: Leaf (E-mail)
> >Subject: [leaf-user] FTP and IP-NAT
> >
> >
> >HI people,
> >
> >I have a Dachstein router with EchoWall and SSH on it.
> >
> >I try connecting to a FTP server and get this message:
> >
> >error message: "501 you are on a LAN and the IP-NAT is not
> >translating your
> >IP address correctly"
> >
> >I didn't have this problem before with this server, so i
> >assume they changed
> >something.
> >
> >What do I need to change in my router to prevent this problem?


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