I agree ;-) Oman is a bugger of a flight
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: John Boocock <barbaravi...@gmail.com> Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:44:44 To: Andy Pyzer<andypy...@hotmail.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org<leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] the passion of Leeds United Posting of the month! On 23 Feb 2011 21:04, "Andy Pyzer" <andypy...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I agree Matt, no one ever listens to me anyway so i rarely post, i've only been here a few years and only supported since 1971 so what do i know? > > We all moaned last year but got promoted, we hoped for mid table this year and have over achieved in that sense. I haven't been able to travel this year (Oman is a bugger of a flight) but what I have seen on TV has shown me we have a group of mostly average players who will do quite well in this league with a few stand outs. If we stay down we will lose Kasper and Snoddy, I'd like to keep Watt and Max and Kilkenny. I wish Kisnorbo was back too it would help imo. > > I love the general banter here as depressing as it is most days but i am pleased that at least we won't go down this year. We have done well, we could have done better and there will still be ups and downs. I am in touch with mates all over the world regularly and thanks to listers here i get to at least hear the radio commentary and sometimes dodgy TV - long may this miserable bunch of moaning buggers carry on their opinions on a daily basis - it does amuse me. > > For the record and I hate to agree Becchio is crap but he scores goals - eventually. Somma should start more often. Kasper has been our saviour more times this season than any other keeper for us in a long time. > > I love being a Leeds fan, gives me an excuse for the tourettes I develop when I listen to the games.. MOT. > > Andy Pyzer > > > >> From: m...@leeds-united.net >> To: m...@myray.com; barbaravi...@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:41:14 +0000 >> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >> Subject: Re: [LU] What part? >> >> In some ways we had this in league 1. When we started to slip during the >> cup run it was fairly apparently that most of these players weren’t good >> enough for the championship so what motivation did they have to get over the >> finish line, a season of struggle, a replacement coming in??? >> >> >> >> But, quite a few have proven that wrong >> >> >> >> But never under estimate the vanity of football people >> >> >> >> Bates wants his day at Stamford Bridge, Grayson won’t want to be a nearly >> man, we are still the biggest club outside the premier league and while >> this season is a gimme next season isn’t! >> >> >> >> Many of the players think they are prem standard, the media seem to agree, >> Becchio to Celtic, Kasper to Liverpool, Bradley Johnson to half a dozen no >> mark lower prom clubs, it won’t be long before the Somma to Stoke or >> someone rumours start. >> >> >> >> I was p1ssed off last night but we are 6th, 5 points off 2nd, the clubs >> around us are dropping points at random. >> >> >> >> I’m not convinced that we have to get out of this league this year, I can >> see West Ham having a relegation hangover and Wigan and Wolves the other 2 >> most likely hold no fear even with £50m. Look how Hull and Burnley have >> struggled to adjust. >> >> >> >> Relax and enjoy this season and see where it leads, top 8 is good anything >> better is fantastic! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On >> Behalf Of Dr Michael Benjamin >> Sent: 23 February 2011 17:11 >> To: barbaravi...@gmail.com >> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org >> Subject: Re: [LU] What part? >> >> >> >> Lets stir the shit a bit:- >> Just how much motivation is there to go up? >> Bates: Would get the opportunity to sell of the club. But................ >> To do so he has to open up the whole can of worms about ownership and face a >> possible criminal investigation. >> To go up and not sell means either investing in new players or facing a lot >> of questions about why he has not done so. >> In short why should he? He is sat on a nice flow of cash. No real problems. >> In short maybe Bates is better off as we are. >> Grayson: Would get the opportunity to prove himself. But on the other hand >> if a new buyer came in just what guarantees does he have of staying? None. >> If buyer doesn't arrive he, SG, will be open conflict with Bates about >> buying new players. Also SG will be the steward of a probable relegated >> team. We all know that means the sack. So there are scenarios where SG maybe >> not to keen to get promoted. Not with KB. >> Before anyone starts lambasting me I'll make three points: >> 1. The Watford play off final. >> 2. The nature of our uncle Ken and his past antics. >> 3. I said that this is one scenario -- there are many others. >> But only in Leeds could you describe this scenario at all -- unlikely as it >> may be [ or so I hope!] >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> Dr Michael Benjamin, >> Community Psychiatrist >> ------------------------------- >> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT >> http://www.myRay.com >> ------------------------------ >> Mental Health: >> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com >> -------------------------------- >> Auditing || Quality Control >> http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ >> -------------------------------- >> Blog: >> http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com >> >> >> >> On 23 February 2011 18:36, <barbaravi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On 23/02/2011 14:04, Matt Anderson wrote: >> > >> >> Bates arguments aside should we be spending £10m on players to go >> >> up? >> >> >> > >> > >> > I raised this issue after the Norwich match. Like Norwich we are >> described >> > as "building" a team. >> > >> > I'd like to think that we were and that the game plan was to have that >> team >> > constructed, if not over one season definitely over two seasons, in order >> to >> > be promoted and then retain Premiership status with the correct buying >> > policy on achieving that status. >> > >> > Howard Wilkinson was in a different footballing world when he took Leeds >> > out of the second division in 1990 but his buying strategy was astute. He >> > had the correct players to take us out of division 2 and then supplanted >> > some of them with the necessary players for the first division. >> > >> > Grayson appears not to have the luxury of Wilkinson's signings of 1989/90 >> > and I doubt that he has the same single mindedness to instil the >> discipline >> > in his team that Wilko hammered home. Compare the promotion chasing club >> of >> > 1989/90 with the current set-up. I'm afraid it doesn't look good. >> > >> > Having said that, if we repeated our 1990 form in the run in to the end of >> > this season we would end up with about 75 points and with only eight >> points >> > separating the 7 teams below runaway leaders QPR we could just be in with >> a >> > shout for automatic promotion but more likely the play-offs beckon. >> > >> > How many matches of the remaining 13 can we honestly expect to take >> maximum >> > points from? And does Grayson have the strength of character to lead the >> > team on to taking those points? >> > >> > With QPR Swansea, Forest and Watford all still to come, forgive me if I am >> > sceptical. Win those four games and I'd say we are capable of the second >> > promotion spot. The problem is we are also quite capable of dropping >> points >> > big style against the likes of Burnley, Millwall and Ipswich. >> > >> > There are too many imponderables about the current team and because of >> that >> > it would take a very brave person to feel confident about anything other >> > than the play-offs. >> > >> > And yes it isn't wrong to say that some of the blame must lie at the door >> > of Kenneth William Bates who appears not to share the ambitions of his >> > club's supporters for Premiership football - typified by the knowledge >> that >> > the club has had a purple patch in terms of revenues in recent years but >> not >> > in terms of squad improvement. >> > >> > There are a few players in the team who might be capable of holding their >> > own at the higher level - Schmiechel for example) but would another season >> > in the Championship only see those players leaving for pastures greener? >> > >> > It's a very frustrating time to be a Leeds United fan but then isn't it >> > always? >> > >> > Betty >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> > >> > MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >>_____ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3462 - Release Date: 02/23/11 >> >>_______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER