More importantly, why the giddy f*ck would anyone pay money to go to
Wimbledon and sit on a hill watching it on a telly when there's games going
on the non-show courts.

Idiots.


On 8 July 2013 16:29, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But they
> gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if they are
> there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You make some
> good points but this is total bobbins.
>
> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he bottled
> it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental strength to win a
> slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a plain fact mate.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because
> he was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes.
> >
> > If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge
> ?
> >
> > Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising
> his talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser.
> >
> > Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me
> or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it.
> >
> > Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally
> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently.
> > Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing
> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference for
> the other 50 weeks of the year.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it.
> >> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially
> called 'Herman hill'?
> >>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming
> Grayson Grove ?
> >>
> >> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely
> different to a media nickname.
> >>>
> >>> Didn't think so.
> >>>
> >>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then.
> >>
> >> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I
> >>>
> >>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths
> would be so challenging.
> >>>
> >>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then
> more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers.
> >>
> >> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a
> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it every
> time.
> >>>
> >>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion.
> >>
> >> I don't think it is.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true
> sportsman.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in
> defeat as in victory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been
> - 1 v 2 in the world.
> >>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Big of you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why
> would I? but
> >>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english
> man won
> >>>>> tour de france.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you'd written:
> >>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why
> would I? but
> >>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english
> man won
> >>>>> tour de france.'
> >>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree
> with you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're not comparing like with like.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray
> wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit kit) win
> gold in London 2012.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they
> will not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for
> both Scotland & Britain.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want
> him to lose.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Couldn't agree more.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman
> hill' when she interviewed him after.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name
> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament.
> >>>>
> >>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to
> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray Mound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Now he WAS a loser.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras)
> and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather.
> >>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world.
> >>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to
> pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year.
> >>>>
> >>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ...
> >>>> Murray is.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Al
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