I don't think me or his bank manager care. Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:17, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > How many majors did he win? And why didn't he win any?! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 09/07/2013, at 0:16, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote: > >> FFS, he was number one in the world for years. I'd love to be that weak >> minded >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:14, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> No but he bottled the majors. No other reason he didn't win one. He had the >>> talent but nerves meant that he couldn't convert. Isn't that the very >>> definition of bottler? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 09/07/2013, at 0:11, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> So you're gonna ignore his Ryder cup record ? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he >>>>>> reached his 3rd final. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in >>>>>> 2001 saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming >>>>>> back the following day was a whole new ball game. >>>>>> >>>>>> On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? >>>>> In a word: yes >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But >>>>>>> they gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if >>>>>>> they are there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You >>>>>>> make some good points but this is total bobbins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he >>>>>>> bottled it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental >>>>>>> strength to win a slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just >>>>>>> a plain fact mate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just >>>>>>>> because he was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name >>>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson >>>>>>>> ridge ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising >>>>>>>> his talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, >>>>>>>> me or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>>>>>>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>>>>>>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing >>>>>>>> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference >>>>>>>> for the other 50 weeks of the year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>>>>>>>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>>>>>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd >>>>>>>>>> becoming Grayson Grove ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>>>>>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around >>>>>>>>>> then. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the >>>>>>>>>> maths would be so challenging. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then >>>>>>>>>> more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is >>>>>>>>> a loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled >>>>>>>>> it every time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think it is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true >>>>>>>>>>>>> sportsman. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in >>>>>>>>>>>> defeat as in victory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have >>>>>>>>>>>> been - 1 v 2 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english >>>>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english >>>>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree >>>>>>>>>>>> with you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray >>>>>>>>>>>> wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit >>>>>>>>>>>> kit) win gold in London 2012. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they >>>>>>>>>>>>> will not. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for >>>>>>>>>>>> both Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who >>>>>>>>>>>>> want him to lose. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman >>>>>>>>>>>>> hill' when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the >>>>>>>>>>>> name doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there >>>>>>>>>>> to support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. >>>>>>>>>>> Murray Mound. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, >>>>>>>>>>>> Sampras) and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to >>>>>>>>>>>> pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a >>>>>>>>>>> loser. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>>>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
