FFS, he was number one in the world for years. I'd love to be that weak minded
Sent from my iPad On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:14, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > No but he bottled the majors. No other reason he didn't win one. He had the > talent but nerves meant that he couldn't convert. Isn't that the very > definition of bottler? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 09/07/2013, at 0:11, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> So you're gonna ignore his Ryder cup record ? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he >>>> reached his 3rd final. >>>> >>>> Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in 2001 >>>> saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming back the >>>> following day was a whole new ball game. >>>> >>>> On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? >>> In a word: yes >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But >>>>> they gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if >>>>> they are there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You >>>>> make some good points but this is total bobbins. >>>>> >>>>> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he bottled >>>>> it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental strength to win >>>>> a slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a plain fact mate. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because >>>>>> he was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising >>>>>> his talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me >>>>>> or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>>>>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>>>>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing >>>>>> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference >>>>>> for the other 50 weeks of the year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>>>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>>>>>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>>>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming >>>>>>>> Grayson Grove ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>>>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths >>>>>>>> would be so challenging. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then >>>>>>>> more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a >>>>>>> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it >>>>>>> every time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think it is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true >>>>>>>>>>> sportsman. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in >>>>>>>>>> defeat as in victory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been >>>>>>>>>> - 1 v 2 in the world. >>>>>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english >>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english >>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree >>>>>>>>>> with you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray >>>>>>>>>> wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit >>>>>>>>>> kit) win gold in London 2012. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they >>>>>>>>>>> will not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for >>>>>>>>>> both Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want >>>>>>>>>>> him to lose. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman >>>>>>>>>>> hill' when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name >>>>>>>>>> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to >>>>>>>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray >>>>>>>>> Mound. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) >>>>>>>>>> and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to >>>>>>>>>> pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
