How many majors did he win? And why didn't he win any?! Sent from my iPhone
On 09/07/2013, at 0:16, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote: > FFS, he was number one in the world for years. I'd love to be that weak minded > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:14, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> No but he bottled the majors. No other reason he didn't win one. He had the >> talent but nerves meant that he couldn't convert. Isn't that the very >> definition of bottler? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 09/07/2013, at 0:11, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> So you're gonna ignore his Ryder cup record ? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he >>>>> reached his 3rd final. >>>>> >>>>> Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in 2001 >>>>> saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming back >>>>> the following day was a whole new ball game. >>>>> >>>>> On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? >>>> In a word: yes >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But >>>>>> they gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if >>>>>> they are there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You >>>>>> make some good points but this is total bobbins. >>>>>> >>>>>> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he >>>>>> bottled it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental >>>>>> strength to win a slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a >>>>>> plain fact mate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because >>>>>>> he was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson >>>>>>> ridge ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising >>>>>>> his talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, >>>>>>> me or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>>>>>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>>>>>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing >>>>>>> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference >>>>>>> for the other 50 weeks of the year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>>>>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>>>>>>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>>>>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming >>>>>>>>> Grayson Grove ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>>>>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around >>>>>>>>> then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths >>>>>>>>> would be so challenging. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then >>>>>>>>> more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a >>>>>>>> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it >>>>>>>> every time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't think it is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true >>>>>>>>>>>> sportsman. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in >>>>>>>>>>> defeat as in victory. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been >>>>>>>>>>> - 1 v 2 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english >>>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english >>>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree >>>>>>>>>>> with you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray >>>>>>>>>>> wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit >>>>>>>>>>> kit) win gold in London 2012. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they >>>>>>>>>>>> will not. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for >>>>>>>>>>> both Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want >>>>>>>>>>>> him to lose. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman >>>>>>>>>>>> hill' when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the >>>>>>>>>>> name doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to >>>>>>>>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray >>>>>>>>>> Mound. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) >>>>>>>>>>> and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to >>>>>>>>>>> pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
