In this kind of scenario, the world was better before social media. I don’t ‘know’ much about this situation, beyond the facts of the results and league table (in that, I am counting the results / achievements of the last 4 years) plus what I see with my own eyes at games.
I ‘believe’ that Bielsa truly ‘gets’ Leeds and he loves it. He has taken a bunch of mainly, journeymen players, forged a team to get promoted and played with a style and energy that caught a lot of the Premier teams on the hop last season. The promotion alone has been something that has been beyond all the other managers who have tried. Of course the better, richer teams are coming up with ways to counter us - that is how football works - it helps them that they have lots of money to throw at it, more than us at any rate. I do think there is a problem with some of these players seem to have ‘peaked’; I can see that there is a long injury list, sadly these being mostly our better players - this will be having an impact; and I can also see that some of the younger players, when drafted in to the first team, need time to settle and get acclimatised - do we give them that, as fans? It was never going to be as ‘easy’ this year as last, let’s be realistic. Barring a disastrous run of results, this board are not going to sack him - he may ‘leave by mutual consent’ - but who would replace him - any name you give (except Steve Bruce) is likely either untried, or too expensive (SB is just shit). These players trust Bielsa way more than is usual in football. I come back to trusting in Bielsa to find solutions, motivate players, draft in the right youngsters when they are ready, and most of all, to get us to safety. Nick > On 18 Oct 2021, at 08:40, John Lee via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > > It’ll be Orta/Radz’s biggest challenge - finding a new manager. Regardless of > results this season, there was no way I expected Bielsa to be here next > season, unless we won the league and he fancied a pop at Europe? > > Almost as important is can we keep Philips and Raphinha for a couple of years? > > Anyway, let’s end on a positive - Newcastle ;-) > >> On 18 Oct 2021, at 07:06, Alec McQueen <alec...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If Bielsa resigns we are down. There is nobody else who could make our >> current squad perform to the level we have done in the past 2-3 years. We >> will be OK (just) if we stay calm and let MB get on with it. I think we have >> been unlucky on fixtures, injuries and absences, and when that levels up >> (pls God!), then we will get a good run going and pull away from the bottom. >> But I don't expect anything better than 15th at the end of the season, and >> MB may leave at that point anyway. >> Cheers >> A >> >>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 15:06, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> I dont think Bielsa will be our manager next year, sadly. >>> >>> If he doesnt turn our results around before Christmas he will resign. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of John Lee via >>> Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >>> Sent: Monday, 18 October 2021 1:08 AM >>> To: Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: leeds list <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Coach 22 >>> >>> Someone asked the question about getting rid of Bielsa, and it is, sadly, a >>> fair one? Accepting the unbelievable progress of the last 3 years, >>> performances which I’ll never ever forget, Bielsa’s methods have been >>> neutered by many teams, and unless we score a hat-full then our defensive >>> structure means we are completely naive at times! Simply repeating the same >>> mistake time and again, with lesser quality players than our first xi, >>> seems idiotic. >>> >>> We can now see why Bielsa stays only a short time at teams - he gets sussed >>> out, and then finds another group to ‘indoctrinate’. When it works it’s >>> brilliant! >>> >>> At what point though does the club start to ask him questions, and will he >>> simply walk? >>> >>> There are 7 teams with 7 points or less - I think we can muddle our way to >>> safety, but I’m short of belief that this is going anywhere near the 9th >>> place of last season, although I’d settle for 17th. Unless our prospects >>> improve I think it’s unfeasible we’ll be hanging on to the likes of Rapha, >>> Phillips etc for more than this season? What are the odds of Newcastle >>> coming in for them in January? >>> >>> I still hope I see us with Shack in midfield and Drameh at right back, and >>> soon! And Roberts nowhere near the first xi :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 17 Oct 2021, at 16:20, Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> What worries me is that the players seem to be lacking >>>> confidence..........and one thing you need if you are going to play >>>> Bielsaball (and all the high-risk play that entails) is supreme confidence. >>>> It is one of the many facets of Bielsa's genius that he managed to instill >>>> such self-belief in players who, let's be honest, did not previously seem >>>> to possess the talent to deserve to be confident. No doubt getting our top >>>> players back will help, but Bielsa's biggest challenge now, I think, is to >>>> somehow rebuild that lost confidence. >>>> >>>> My other worry is that opposing managers have worked out how our passing >>>> patterns develop and have trained their players where to position >>>> themselves to prevent us building moves. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:11 PM nattan--- via Leedslist < >>>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree from what I have read and what little I have seen, yesterday was >>>>> clearly very poor, and I accept we have problems. However can you imagine >>>>> the moaning from other managers if they had to start a game with both >>>>> fullbacks, the midfield lynchpin, the top goal scorer, and the best / >>>>> most >>>>> creative player all absent? That is 5 out of 10 outfield players missing, >>>>> exactly half of them >>>>> No team could hope to cope easily with that level of absence.( Koch a >>>>> current German international also injured) >>>>> Yes our problems are exacerbated by the small squad which led to a very >>>>> young and inexperienced bench ( the absent for 2 years Forshaw not >>>>> withstanding) >>>>> Things are also made worse by Dallas being out of sorts ( missed an NI >>>>> game earlier due to personal reasons) >>>>> As one of my T shirts says "LUFC KEEP THE FAITH" >>>>> Anyone asking for Bielsa to be replaced need to get a grip >>>>> Get our players back, get a few good results and it will all look much >>>>> better >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 17 October 2021, 15:56:07 BST, Michael Benjamin < >>>>> m...@myray.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This team is Bielsa. >>>>> If it fails we simply go down. No one can get more out of them. >>>>> We'd sell and start all over again. >>>>> This year not only have players gone backward but no one has progressed >>>>> from the under 23s who are not on the fringes before. >>>>> I am at a loss as to why or what is happening, plenty of guesses, but why >>>>> guess. We will wait and see. >>>>> This is Bielsa's show >>>>> >>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Ed Morrish < >>>>> edmorr...@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 5:49:32 PM >>>>> To: list leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >>>>> Subject: [LU] Coach 22 >>>>> >>>>> Watching the highlights of a pretty abject performance yesterday, a >>>>> problem occurred to me: Bielsa has gotten players like Kalvin and Bamford >>>>> playing in a way that no other coach has ever managed. And when the team >>>>> succeeds it’s because he’s got them playing in a way that none of our >>>>> previous coaches ever have. So for all the problems we’ve got - a small >>>>> squad, no plan B, a reluctance to change underperforming players - I >>>>> wonder >>>>> if a different coach would be able to change anything, given the players >>>>> we’ve got? I mean, Bielsa’s the coach who turned Luke Ayling into someone >>>>> people talk about being called up for England. Is there anyone else who >>>>> can >>>>> do that, or would they need to spent £30m on a new right back? >>>>> >>>>> In other words, if Bielsa is the best manager for this group of players, >>>>> don’t we kind of have to just stick with him, at least until we have 11 >>>>> Raphinhas available for selection…? >>>>> >>>>> Ed. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>>>> >>>>> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>>>> >>>>> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! 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